Science creats a 'she-male'

Arvon · 07-02-2003, 05:02 PM

This is a rather interesting article of some celluar experments being done on cells. While it may bring up several questions, I was interested in the last paragraph on advancements in science. Here's the url: http://www.msnbc.com/news/934076.asp?vts=070220031350

have a go at it.

Larry_OHF · 07-02-2003, 05:14 PM

Isn't there enough of them without purposly growing more on purpose?

Lavindathar · 07-02-2003, 08:48 PM

Thats a bit harsh Larry, you never know who reads this!!!!!

But I aint one! lol.

Azred · 07-03-2003, 01:21 AM

I totally agree with Larry. Just because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean that you should.

Currently, hermaphrodites are surgically altered to be only one gender soon after birth, to avoid undue psychological stress on the child later in life.

Mr. Mopery · 07-03-2003, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by Azred:
Currently, hermaphrodites are surgically altered to be only one gender soon after birth, to avoid undue psychological stress on the child later in life.

Undue psychological stress? I get plenty of that from my girlfriend. Hell, as a hermaphrodite, I'd be my own best friend!

Dragonshadow · 07-03-2003, 03:03 PM

I think that using science to create someone who is different is wrong.
As Azred said: just because you can do it doesn't make it right to.

07-03-2003, 03:27 PM

I agree with larry and Azred, but I also agree with Mr. Moprey.

I dont think the level of hysteria that one lady in the article presented is really apropriate. I think she was over the top. Describing Hermaphrodites as Disgusting is rather intolerant and bigoted....especially since it happens naturally too.

pritchke · 07-03-2003, 03:33 PM

When it occurs naturally Doctors determine if they are closer to a Male or Female than do surgery. Sometimes they guess wrong so the person ends up being gay (not in all cases but some). Since we are now a more tolerant society (for the most part) than the past they can live pretty normal lives without scorn (usually). I found that interesting.

Zero Alpha · 07-03-2003, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by pritchke:
When it occurs naturally Doctors determine if they are closer to a Male or Female than do surgery. Sometimes they guess wrong so the person ends up being gay (not in all cases but some). Since we are now a more tolerant society (for the most part) than the past they can live pretty normal lives without scorn (usually). I found that interesting.

but by changing the sex of the child, the doctors are changing a person to conform to the 'ideals' of socitiy. while the child can have no choice in the matter! i find this almost as bad as inducing being a hamaphadite.

Mr. Mopery · 07-04-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Zero Alpha:

quote:
Originally posted by pritchke:
When it occurs naturally Doctors determine if they are closer to a Male or Female than do surgery. Sometimes they guess wrong so the person ends up being gay (not in all cases but some). Since we are now a more tolerant society (for the most part) than the past they can live pretty normal lives without scorn (usually). I found that interesting.

but by changing the sex of the child, the doctors are changing a person to conform to the 'ideals' of socitiy. while the child can have no choice in the matter! i find this almost as bad as inducing being a hamaphadite. [/QUOTE]Too true. Actually, this thread reminded me of a story I saw on 60-minutes a few years ago about a boy who had his sex "re-assigned" after a circumcision accident. Basically, there wasn't much they could do after they fried his schmeckle and they decided to put him in a dress and give him hormones.

Really screwed him up (unsurprisingly).

It's an interesting case, you can read about it here: http://infocirc.org/rollston.htm
Obviously this kid wasn't a hermaphrodite, but the doctor who finally suggested sexual re-assignment was this Kiwi named John Money. Some of you may know him: he was a kind of 70's psycho-babble goldenchild. And he was also responsible for convincing LOTS of parents to sexually re-assign their kids, in the case of hermaphrodites AND in cases where, for example, a boy with all the requisite boy parts happened to be born with an undersized schmeckle.

This guy has a major ego and he freaks me out.

07-02-2003, 05:02 PM	#1
Arvon Unicorn Join Date: October 4, 2001 Location: Kingdom of the West,..P.o. Cynagus Posts: 4,212	This is a rather interesting article of some celluar experments being done on cells. While it may bring up several questions, I was interested in the last paragraph on advancements in science. Here's the url: http://www.msnbc.com/news/934076.asp?vts=070220031350 have a go at it. __________________ 53.7% of all statistics are made up

07-02-2003, 05:14 PM	#2
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 49 Posts: 14,759	Isn't there enough of them without purposly growing more on purpose? __________________

07-02-2003, 08:48 PM	#3
Lavindathar Harper Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Lancs, England Age: 40 Posts: 4,729	Thats a bit harsh Larry, you never know who reads this!!!!! But I aint one! lol. __________________ =@

07-03-2003, 01:21 AM	#4
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	I totally agree with Larry. Just because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean that you should. Currently, hermaphrodites are surgically altered to be only one gender soon after birth, to avoid undue psychological stress on the child later in life. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

07-03-2003, 03:03 PM	#6
Dragonshadow Quth-Maren Join Date: February 17, 2003 Location: Portsmouth Age: 35 Posts: 4,145	I think that using science to create someone who is different is wrong. As Azred said: just because you can do it doesn't make it right to. __________________ aka Loc der Graf, Quillruke

07-03-2003, 03:27 PM	#7
MagiK Guest Posts: n/a	I agree with larry and Azred, but I also agree with Mr. Moprey. I dont think the level of hysteria that one lady in the article presented is really apropriate. I think she was over the top. Describing Hermaphrodites as Disgusting is rather intolerant and bigoted....especially since it happens naturally too.

07-03-2003, 03:33 PM	#8
pritchke Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: September 5, 2001 Location: Calgary, AB Age: 50 Posts: 3,491	When it occurs naturally Doctors determine if they are closer to a Male or Female than do surgery. Sometimes they guess wrong so the person ends up being gay (not in all cases but some). Since we are now a more tolerant society (for the most part) than the past they can live pretty normal lives without scorn (usually). I found that interesting.

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