Ashcroft and Death

skywalker · 01-30-2002, 07:02 PM

Pardon me my musings, but....

Today on VPR (Vermont Public Radio)I heard a story about a Rutland man, either accused or guilty of murder getting the death penalty which was approved by Attorney General Ashcroft and something struck me about the story.

Last year I sort of remember Ashcroft denying terminally ill patients the right to an assisted suicide (in Washington or Oregon, I think).

I find odd that he seems to have no problem recommending people who don't want to die to a death sentence, but denies people who want to die, the right to die with dignity.

Forgive me if I'm out of line, but I find the second part of it sad. I do feel that if i want to die I should be able to make that choice when the time comes (if I am sane enough to make the choice, of course.

On another completely different note, I think he is a little more than odd, when he wants statues that are nude to be covered if the statues are behind him when he speaks in public. These are statues that have been in place for many years before he was born and they never caused a stir for anyone else. He's a very strange man.

Mark

Gabriel · 01-30-2002, 07:23 PM

I remember reading about the stautes at least, Ashcroft is anti pretty much everything, and feels that the press are mocking him when the semi-naked staute of justice is pictured behind him.

Ronn_Bman · 01-30-2002, 08:17 PM

I don't see that big a deal regarding his opinion on the first two, as they are completely unrelated, but covering nude statues behind him when he appears in public?

I hadn't heard that last before, and it's a bit much [img]smile.gif[/img]

J'aran · 01-31-2002, 04:30 AM

Yea, I agree with Ronn_Bman, death-sentence and euthanasia are two very different things. However, I do agree with you that a terminally ill patient who will suffer from severe pain, be it physically or emotionally, for the short remainder of his life, should be given the right to end his life, to die with at least some dignity and as painlessly as possible.

That thingy about the statues is just plain silly though. Politicians can be wierd sometimes, when they feel that their credibility is questioned, they can do funny stuff, which usually just generates the opposite result of what they're trying to accomplish.

01-30-2002, 08:17 PM	#3
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 58 Posts: 5,177	I don't see that big a deal regarding his opinion on the first two, as they are completely unrelated, but covering nude statues behind him when he appears in public? I hadn't heard that last before, and it's a bit much [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"http://home.carolina.rr.com/orthanc/pics/Spinning%20Hammer%20Sig%20Pic.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

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01-30-2002, 07:02 PM	#1
skywalker Banned User Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: VT, USA Age: 64 Posts: 3,097	Pardon me my musings, but.... Today on VPR (Vermont Public Radio)I heard a story about a Rutland man, either accused or guilty of murder getting the death penalty which was approved by Attorney General Ashcroft and something struck me about the story. Last year I sort of remember Ashcroft denying terminally ill patients the right to an assisted suicide (in Washington or Oregon, I think). I find odd that he seems to have no problem recommending people who don't want to die to a death sentence, but denies people who want to die, the right to die with dignity. Forgive me if I'm out of line, but I find the second part of it sad. I do feel that if i want to die I should be able to make that choice when the time comes (if I am sane enough to make the choice, of course. On another completely different note, I think he is a little more than odd, when he wants statues that are nude to be covered if the statues are behind him when he speaks in public. These are statues that have been in place for many years before he was born and they never caused a stir for anyone else. He's a very strange man. Mark

01-30-2002, 07:23 PM	#2
Gabriel Emerald Dragon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: England Age: 42 Posts: 920	I remember reading about the stautes at least, Ashcroft is anti pretty much everything, and feels that the press are mocking him when the semi-naked staute of justice is pictured behind him.

01-31-2002, 04:30 AM	#4
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 1,493	Yea, I agree with Ronn_Bman, death-sentence and euthanasia are two very different things. However, I do agree with you that a terminally ill patient who will suffer from severe pain, be it physically or emotionally, for the short remainder of his life, should be given the right to end his life, to die with at least some dignity and as painlessly as possible. That thingy about the statues is just plain silly though. Politicians can be wierd sometimes, when they feel that their credibility is questioned, they can do funny stuff, which usually just generates the opposite result of what they're trying to accomplish.

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