Defending....

Deejax · 02-07-2003, 07:37 AM

Ok, what is happening here?

I played W8 through once with a four character party and decided to try soloing. So now i'm playing a female mook ranger/ninja.

I noticed one very big difference. Suddenly the opponents have invented defending. In al lot of fights the enemies in short range decide to take a defensive stand. (higardi highwayman is defending...) Fine by me. This means i can freely attack without being hit myself. But what is causing this interesting (though strange) phenomenon.
I have won fights against incredible odds, just because the enemy walks up to my lonely mook and start defending.

Anyone encountered this before?
Any ideas what causes it?
Perhaps a result of my high stealth score?

Kakero · 02-07-2003, 08:52 AM

yes, a high stealth score will make monsters stop attacking you and start defending always. have fun now. [img]smile.gif[/img]

02-09-2003, 02:26 PM

Another cause is that they can't reach you. If you hide in a corner, where only 1 or 2 can hit you, the rest will sit there defending.

Deejax · 02-13-2003, 08:22 AM

I'm talking about the one or two that CAN hit me. As Kakero says, they just stop attacking.

There is a difference between the enemies in front and in the back if you look at the messages during combat. Enemies that cannot reach you defend when it is their turn in a round (ie "Swarming wasp defends"). But when they are in short range and they do not attack because of the stealth skill of your front row fighters, the message reads "Swarming wasp is defending...". This message is displayed at the start of the round.

Maybe it is the message they would get when you select the defense action?

the mighty stamar · 02-13-2003, 06:22 PM

I have encountered this bug with my six person party( Im playing the game for the first time right now around level 15).
For me it always comes up in one thickness hallways when the monsters are not in melee range.
They will stand and defend and not advance or fire their own missiles at me. I believe this is a bug dealing with paths and why I dont know exactly. You can wake the monsters up by charging and meleeing them, but if you sit there and pick them off they will all defend from that point until they are dead.
I have had it happen in mt gigas and martens bluff. Even with multiple 'rows' of monsters.
The bug I encountered is not a regular thing at all though.

Kakero · 02-14-2003, 12:50 AM

I don't know, I experience that if your stealth is soooo high. the monsters ( even the one that can hit you ). will start defending. This action will happen no matter which action your character choose ( attack , defence etc )

I encounter this when I played solo faerie ninja.

[ 02-14-2003, 12:53 AM: Message edited by: Kakero ]

02-13-2003, 08:22 AM	#4
Deejax Manshoon Join Date: November 15, 2002 Location: Amsterdam Age: 49 Posts: 248	I'm talking about the one or two that CAN hit me. As Kakero says, they just stop attacking. There is a difference between the enemies in front and in the back if you look at the messages during combat. Enemies that cannot reach you defend when it is their turn in a round (ie "Swarming wasp defends"). But when they are in short range and they do not attack because of the stealth skill of your front row fighters, the message reads "Swarming wasp is defending...". This message is displayed at the start of the round. Maybe it is the message they would get when you select the defense action? __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[firedevil]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/firedevil.gif\" /> Fire...

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02-07-2003, 07:37 AM	#1
Deejax Manshoon Join Date: November 15, 2002 Location: Amsterdam Age: 49 Posts: 248	Ok, what is happening here? I played W8 through once with a four character party and decided to try soloing. So now i'm playing a female mook ranger/ninja. I noticed one very big difference. Suddenly the opponents have invented defending. In al lot of fights the enemies in short range decide to take a defensive stand. (higardi highwayman is defending...) Fine by me. This means i can freely attack without being hit myself. But what is causing this interesting (though strange) phenomenon. I have won fights against incredible odds, just because the enemy walks up to my lonely mook and start defending. Anyone encountered this before? Any ideas what causes it? Perhaps a result of my high stealth score?

02-07-2003, 08:52 AM	#2
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	yes, a high stealth score will make monsters stop attacking you and start defending always. have fun now. [img]smile.gif[/img]

02-09-2003, 02:26 PM	#3
SecretMaster Guest Posts: n/a	Another cause is that they can't reach you. If you hide in a corner, where only 1 or 2 can hit you, the rest will sit there defending.

02-13-2003, 06:22 PM	#5
the mighty stamar Avatar Join Date: February 12, 2003 Location: hades Age: 54 Posts: 583	I have encountered this bug with my six person party( Im playing the game for the first time right now around level 15). For me it always comes up in one thickness hallways when the monsters are not in melee range. They will stand and defend and not advance or fire their own missiles at me. I believe this is a bug dealing with paths and why I dont know exactly. You can wake the monsters up by charging and meleeing them, but if you sit there and pick them off they will all defend from that point until they are dead. I have had it happen in mt gigas and martens bluff. Even with multiple 'rows' of monsters. The bug I encountered is not a regular thing at all though.

02-14-2003, 12:50 AM	#6
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	I don't know, I experience that if your stealth is soooo high. the monsters ( even the one that can hit you ). will start defending. This action will happen no matter which action your character choose ( attack , defence etc ) I encounter this when I played solo faerie ninja. [ 02-14-2003, 12:53 AM: Message edited by: Kakero ]

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