Whats happened to RPGs

cloud ff7 38 · 08-12-2003, 04:23 PM

Has anyone noticed the decrease in actully hard RPGs what happened to games like final fantasy and crono trigger?? Those games took weeks even months to beat. Im worried about the state of RPGs.

Faceman · 08-12-2003, 04:54 PM

It's the same problem with all PC games. Publishers put lots of money into "supercool future technology newly developed" 3D graphics and then patch it up with a lame and too short story immediately planning the "even greater looking sequel"
In the last years original new game ideas have become rare and classic genres have become easier to appear to a broader market.
Yet I do not fear for RPGs because they still have a strong fan base and are actually quite popular.
Alas I fear we have lost the classic point&click adventure. I still play Zak or Monkey1 in my free-time and enjoy it. Those were the days! But it all went downhill from Full Throttle which had a cool theme and a nice story but was the first adventure ever I was able to finish in less than a day!
Sometimes there seemed to be still hope when newcomers like the excellent "Broken Sword" arrived but I think one year from now the classic adventure will be buried.

Kakero · 08-12-2003, 04:56 PM

if you are meaning console rpgs then no, maybe because not many western companies out there does japanese translation.

Zoltan · 08-12-2003, 05:24 PM

Chrono Trigger..this game is similiar to shining force and phantasy star? I'm a Rpg fan and I played many rpg games such as baldur's gate, eye of the beholder, icewind dale, fallout, m&m but I enjoy sega rpg games too! Phantasy star is my favourite. Specially the team interaction and dialogues

) well whatever do you recommmend chrono trigger? In web, there's 2 chrono trigger, first one is 3 mb the other one is 260-300 mb. what's up?

Zoltan · 08-12-2003, 05:37 PM

and what's chrono break? (it's chrono trigger 2?)

cloud ff7 38 · 08-12-2003, 05:55 PM

phantasy star is great except for the new ones those are crappy but the ones for gensis were great!!!

Firestormalpha · 08-12-2003, 05:59 PM

Zoltan, I'll pardon your ignorance. The Chrono games are nothing like the Pantasy Star games. In chronological order it's ChronoTrigger (SNES), ChronoCross (PSX), and ChronoBreak of which I've only heard vague rumors, (most likely PS2). Each has a completely seperate storyline much like the FF games. However the storylines are branching with many many endings. I think ChronoCross has 50+ different conclusions.

Luvian · 08-13-2003, 03:38 AM

And we don't want any talk of downloading ROMs.

Zoltan · 08-13-2003, 05:04 AM

Yes luvian you're right. But I dont have any intention about download. I just wanted to get some info about chrono trigger. thank guys.

08-12-2003, 04:54 PM	#2
Faceman Hathor Join Date: February 18, 2002 Location: Vienna Age: 43 Posts: 2,248	It's the same problem with all PC games. Publishers put lots of money into "supercool future technology newly developed" 3D graphics and then patch it up with a lame and too short story immediately planning the "even greater looking sequel" In the last years original new game ideas have become rare and classic genres have become easier to appear to a broader market. Yet I do not fear for RPGs because they still have a strong fan base and are actually quite popular. Alas I fear we have lost the classic point&click adventure. I still play Zak or Monkey1 in my free-time and enjoy it. Those were the days! But it all went downhill from Full Throttle which had a cool theme and a nice story but was the first adventure ever I was able to finish in less than a day! Sometimes there seemed to be still hope when newcomers like the excellent "Broken Sword" arrived but I think one year from now the classic adventure will be buried. __________________ \"I am forever spellbound by the frailty of life\"<br /><br /> Faceman

08-12-2003, 05:24 PM	#4
Zoltan Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: Waterdeep Age: 44 Posts: 1,222	Chrono Trigger..this game is similiar to shining force and phantasy star? I'm a Rpg fan and I played many rpg games such as baldur's gate, eye of the beholder, icewind dale, fallout, m&m but I enjoy sega rpg games too! Phantasy star is my favourite. Specially the team interaction and dialogues) well whatever do you recommmend chrono trigger? In web, there's 2 chrono trigger, first one is 3 mb the other one is 260-300 mb. what's up? __________________ I can feel the touch of wind on my face. Strong wind was slapping my face. I can feel the ground shake. The sky roars with vengeance and fury. From the shadows, I heard the Archmage's words:"İbne Fenner!" And then..I can't remember the rest..

08-12-2003, 05:37 PM	#5
Zoltan Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: Waterdeep Age: 44 Posts: 1,222	and what's chrono break? (it's chrono trigger 2?) __________________ I can feel the touch of wind on my face. Strong wind was slapping my face. I can feel the ground shake. The sky roars with vengeance and fury. From the shadows, I heard the Archmage's words:"İbne Fenner!" And then..I can't remember the rest..

08-12-2003, 05:59 PM	#7
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 41 Posts: 4,454	Zoltan, I'll pardon your ignorance. The Chrono games are nothing like the Pantasy Star games. In chronological order it's ChronoTrigger (SNES), ChronoCross (PSX), and ChronoBreak of which I've only heard vague rumors, (most likely PS2). Each has a completely seperate storyline much like the FF games. However the storylines are branching with many many endings. I think ChronoCross has 50+ different conclusions. __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

08-13-2003, 03:38 AM	#8
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 44 Posts: 6,763	And we don't want any talk of downloading ROMs. __________________ Once upon a time in Canada...

08-12-2003, 04:23 PM	#1
cloud ff7 38 User suspended until [Nov26] Join Date: August 7, 2003 Location: Midgar Age: 36 Posts: 533	Has anyone noticed the decrease in actully hard RPGs what happened to games like final fantasy and crono trigger?? Those games took weeks even months to beat. Im worried about the state of RPGs.

08-12-2003, 04:56 PM	#3
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	if you are meaning console rpgs then no, maybe because not many western companies out there does japanese translation.

08-12-2003, 05:55 PM	#6
cloud ff7 38 User suspended until [Nov26] Join Date: August 7, 2003 Location: Midgar Age: 36 Posts: 533	phantasy star is great except for the new ones those are crappy but the ones for gensis were great!!!

08-13-2003, 05:04 AM	#9
Zoltan Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: Waterdeep Age: 44 Posts: 1,222	Yes luvian you're right. But I dont have any intention about download. I just wanted to get some info about chrono trigger. thank guys. __________________ I can feel the touch of wind on my face. Strong wind was slapping my face. I can feel the ground shake. The sky roars with vengeance and fury. From the shadows, I heard the Archmage's words:"İbne Fenner!" And then..I can't remember the rest..

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