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Old 05-20-2003, 11:17 AM   #1
Raistlin Majere
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im stuck on the orc campaign mission where you must collect 15000 units of lumber! i always get killed before even getting 10000 units! i think getting the goblin shredders is the key(along with killing the trees of life), but every time i go to kill the bear people one of the following happens!

1) The night elves attack while im slaughtering the bear people and kill all my peons and some of the structures!

2) The night elves attack right after i get back from killing the bears and slaugter all my people!

3) If i start to build an army big enough to be able to kill the bears, while still be able to leave enough defense in my base, the cursed night elves attack right before my big attack, killing like half of my warriors!
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Old 05-20-2003, 11:28 AM   #2
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Yeah, that was a very hard mission. You should note that you get alot of wood from destroying Night Elf camps. Also, those Goblin Shredders really do work like a charm, so it might be worth taking another shot at. Its been awhile since I last played WarcraftIII. But I recal building a second camp (with alot of defensive towers) to keep the enemy away from my main camp.
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Old 05-20-2003, 11:45 AM   #3
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im gonna give it another try alright, but not today. im getting sick of that mission already, so ill do it tomorrow. those defensive towers have got to be the key...
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Old 05-20-2003, 03:29 PM   #4
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Be sure to keep some normal troops nearby. The Night Elves have troops with a larger range then your towers. Also, the hero you get for that mission has a very nifty 'duplicate' ability which I recall is very effective [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-20-2003, 03:32 PM   #5
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i find mirror image very handy as well
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Old 05-21-2003, 06:04 AM   #6
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Remember that towers are next to useless unless you also have some troops defending your base.

Being orcs, your units can take quite some punishing before they die. Try using the regular orcish grunts in several companies. When set up properly, you can use a pincer movement to restrict the elves' movement and slaughter them in short order. Two or three well-placed towers can really help in this too, if you do it right you can trap the elves right where they can hit them.
Also, when you've just been attacked it is quite safe to assume you're going to have some breathing space for the next few minutes. If half the force is still left (you didn't lose half, you managed to keep half ) use those to attack while you rebuild your forces.

Instead of defending all the time, you could try to go on the offensive where possible to keep the elves weak.
Also, if you want to be done sooner, definately get the shredders.

Oh, and if it doesn't work, just remember that I prefer elves over orcs any day and it may just have been bad advice to begin with
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Old 05-21-2003, 08:42 AM   #7
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Get a large amount of towers near your base. Get some grunts with Grom, anda few troll support units. Healing Ward is ALWAYS your best friend, coupled with bloodlust.

Have some grunts in reserve at your base, they maul archers and some headhunters for ranged. When attacking the furbolgs use healing wards and bloodlust, have grom do mirror image.

Once you get choppers guard them, they do the work super fast.

Have some raidersand wyverns by now to hunt the enemy bases. Grunts and Head Hunters take small damage from the arrows many Night elves shoot.
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Old 05-21-2003, 01:42 PM   #8
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do you think i should research the weapon/armor upgrades or just use the resources on troops? what happened to me this time was that my gold mine collapsed and i ran out of troops! bummer
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Old 05-22-2003, 04:58 AM   #9
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Offence is the best defence. I just went and slaughtered the night elf early, and then had free reign on the mpa after that. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-22-2003, 12:27 PM   #10
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VICTORY!!!! aaah, it wasnt that hard [img]smile.gif[/img] . just emptied the first gold mine, attacked the dark blue elves and emptied their gold mine and then i had the lumber. the next one seems rather interesting...
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