harry potter 5 rumours/hints discussion

[elianne]

there were several hints about the coming books.

firstly that there would be a surprising new gryffindor quidditch captain
secondly a great fan of harry's would die

what do you think of these?

personally i have a few theories.
that the quidditch captain will either be
ginny as no mention o f her and quidditch has come up yet her family are good at it,
dean thomas?(the muggle whose football mad),
some one previously not in gryffindoor hence thats why it would be so surprsing (someone new or switches houses)
or my favourite, hermione. she is meant to be staying with krum, i figure maybe she ovecomes that fear of flying/heights that some think is in book 3 and that krum teaches her to fly realy well.

as for the fan who dies
colin or dennis creavey
hadgrid?
dobby?
ginny? though she's already nearly died
or one of those witches/wizards who greets harry in the leaky cauldron in book 1

another thing is that hermione, is in greek mythology i think and that character in greek had two men fighting over her
harry/draco/ron/neville/krum? who knows

also i reckon crookshanks might be an animagus. perhaps someone who used to know peter pettigrew, hence why she/he attacked him.
was wondering if with being ginger could be lily but i think crookshanks is supposed to be a male cat, which spoils that idea.

[ 02-25-2003, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: elianne ]

[elianne]

another idea or two is
about why harry's parents where killed. and him being tried to be killed.
its that he could be the heir of gryffindor, therefore him and his dad must die by voldemorts reasoning, and it explains why lily didn't have to die.

also, the order of the phoenix, is assumed by most to be an order like an army or police, helping against dark wizards. why couldn't it be another enemy or a dark force order?
the otehr idea is its like an order of merlin. what if voldemort as riddle recieved it for something good he did in the past? something that devastated him and pushed him over the edge.

[Spelca]

Originally posted by elianne: personally i have a few theories. that the quidditch captain will either be ginny as no mention o f her and quidditch has come up yet her family are good at it, dean thomas?(the muggle whose football mad), some one previously not in gryffindoor hence thats why it would be so surprsing (someone new or switches houses) or my favourite, hermione.

Maybe Krum will switch schools. [img]tongue.gif[/img] He said he didn't like his own school and that he liked Hogwarts better.

Edit --- And why not Harry? He could be the captain.

[ 02-26-2003, 10:53 AM: Message edited by: Spelca ]

[Spelca]

Originally posted by elianne: another idea or two is about why harry's parents where killed. and him being tried to be killed. its that he could be the heir of gryffindor, therefore him and his dad must die by voldemorts reasoning, and it explains why lily didn't have to die.

Yea, that's most probable. [img]smile.gif[/img] Though Voldemort came specifically after Harry, so there should be something special about Harry. Otherwise why didn't he try killing James before? Remember Dumbledore saying that Professor Trelawney's prediction about the return of Voldemort is the second real prediction she had? Maybe she predicted that a boy would be born who could defeat Voldemort and end the Slytherin blood-line. Or something similar. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Originally posted by elianne: also, the order of the phoenix, is assumed by most to be an order like an army or police, helping against dark wizards. why couldn't it be another enemy or a dark force order? the otehr idea is its like an order of merlin. what if voldemort as riddle recieved it for something good he did in the past? something that devastated him and pushed him over the edge.

That's because Dumbledore has a phoenix (Fawkes) who gave feathers for Harry's and Voldemort's wand. So if you ask me, I do believe the Order is a good order, simply because Harry's wand has a feather, because Fawkes saved him and because all of "the old crowd" are mentioned at the end of the fourth book. You know, when Dumbledore asks Sirius to contact all of their old friends. [img]smile.gif[/img] I suspect Harry's parents were in the Order, too.
I don't think that Voldemort did anything so good that he would recieve the Order of Merlin. Dumbledore says that after Tom Riddle left school he disappeared and returned as Voldemort and that nobody recognised him anymore, because he transformed so much. And if you remember, Voldemort tried killing all the Muggle-born children already in his teens, so I doubt he'd do anything to help Muggle-friendly or Muggle-born wizards, not to mention Muggles. I think that the thing which pushed him over the edge was his father dumping his mother when he heard she was a witch. And then that he also ignored Tom. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I think it's hard to make speculations. Rowlings will probably surprise us with someting that none of us thought of. So it's hard to predict.

[ 02-26-2003, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: Spelca ]

[elianne]

spelca

the reason why not harry for captian of quidditch is because rowling said it would be a surprise person. hence harry is the obvious candidate and unless she's doublebluffing then it can't be harry.

i guess youre right about the order of phoenix not being likely to have been given to voldemort. i just didn't like to jump to the conclusion that it was the old gang got together, it may still not be that, we will see when this book comes out. i only really came to that idea because riddle did get an honour whilst at hogwarts, for supposedly saving students, though we all know he didn't, maybe another thing like that could have happened. with someone else blamed and him 'saving' everyone.

as for your idea that relawney predicted harry as the boy who would bring voldy down, great idea, sounds like it could well be true.

i think that if the heir of gryffindor thing is true then it may well be what dumbledore is going to tell harry in book5. as well as about the order of phoenix most likely.

i'm still thinking crookshanks is important though not sure how, any ideas?

[Spelca]

Ooh, I didn't know she said the captain would be a surprise person. It would be cool if it was Krum because then we could have a love triangle between Ron, Hermione and Krum. That would be fun.

I really don't know about Crookshanks. It's possible, like you said, that he is an animagi. But on the other hand, if he was able to recognise Sirius when he was a dog, wouldn't Sirius be able to recognise him too? Unless Sirius did recognise him but just doesn't want to tell Harry. [img]smile.gif[/img] Or maybe he doesn't know. Or maybe Crookshanks is just a really smart kitty. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I am really more interested into what Harry's parents did for a living. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Any ideas there? I imagine they were Aurors, but I'm hoping for a surprise here. I really hope I won't guess anything... I'd prefer a surprise, like all the other HP books I've read.

[Tar]

My bet is on Krum as the new quidditch captain as you can't just promote anyone in Gryfindor to the post of captain without prior experiance (ie, ginny, Hermione etc). I mean, they can't just join the team and than become captain simultaneously unless they are a great proven experienced player like Krum.

And it will be really cool if Crookshanks turn out to be an animagi. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Spelca]

Originally posted by Tar: My bet is on Krum as the new quidditch captain as you can't just promote anyone in Gryfindor to the post of captain without prior experiance (ie, ginny, Hermione etc). I mean, they can't just join the team and than become captain simultaneously unless they are a great proven experienced player like Krum.

Yea, I was thinking of that too. So the only way is to promote someone within the Gryffindor team, or to have an experienced player join. And Krum would fit.

I'm betting the Quidditch Captain is Krum, or Ron (hey, it could happen). I think one of the Creaveys is going also.

[Spelca]

Originally posted by SecretMaster: I'm betting the Quidditch Captain is Krum, or Ron (hey, it could happen). I think one of the Creaveys is going also.

But I just remembered that Krum is a seeker, so he can't join the team since they already have a seeker (Harry). Unless one of them is going to be something else. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
I doubt it will be Ron since he's not that good at flying, and already one of his brothers was the captain, so I think Ron is going to achieve something else that's important. Or maybe not.
Or, maybe Dudley is a wizard and he'll be the captain! [img]tongue.gif[/img]