Dual Wielding Scimtars

shadowolf03 · 01-07-2005, 05:03 AM

But they are both Large Swords...meaning an unnecessary penalty!

Also, can some one tell me which scimtars are particularly good for dual wielding?
ie stats for the Ichor & Souless would be good!

(don't think by naming names it would be a spoiler...)

Bozos of Bones · 01-07-2005, 07:03 AM

They are considered Large Swords only for the proficiency feat. They are indeed both lighter weapons, as proven by the Weapon Finesse.
Good Scimitars are few, like Blood Trails, Acid, Defense, Souls/Soulless, Ichor to a lesser extent and the Hell's Fire(HoF I think). Using an active(Hell's, Souls) in the main hand and a passive(Defense) in the other is unbelieveably powerfull.

shadowolf03 · 01-07-2005, 07:39 AM

So...if i take Weapon Finesse then the dual scimtars are considered light weapons?
(i'll never understand these rules)...

Kitiara · 01-07-2005, 09:17 AM

I thought that it was only daggers and shortswords that counted with weapon finess!! What other weapons are included?

[ 01-07-2005, 09:19 AM: Message edited by: Kitiara ]

Bozos of Bones · 01-07-2005, 09:48 AM

In the core 3rd ed rules, Weapon Finesse can only apply to Small weapons and rapiers. In the game there are no rapiers, so they added the Scimitar component.

Kitiara · 01-07-2005, 10:14 AM

ok, thanks for the info!

shadowolf03 · 01-07-2005, 04:54 PM

Okay, so to sum it all up:
Duel scimtars will have the same penalties as dual short swords.
Which means there is no need for me to take weapon finesse, right?

Bozos of Bones · 01-07-2005, 05:13 PM

Erm... Weapon Finesse enables you to use Dexterity instead of Strength for hitting, not damaging. It is only useable on Small Blades(dagger, Short Sword) and the Scimitar. Scimitars have the same penalties as short swords when you dual them, as they are weapons of equal size. So I really don't get your question.
Weapon Finesse is unusefull only if you use larger weapons, or your Str is greater than your Dex.

shadowolf03 · 01-08-2005, 08:05 AM

Cool, I do believe the complicated rules make any question about them complicated, not only to ask, but also to answer clearly!
But BoB does it well!

Thanks!

Bozos of Bones · 01-08-2005, 08:07 AM

Heh, thanks!
Always glad to be of service

01-07-2005, 05:03 AM	#1
shadowolf03 Drow Warrior Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: UK Age: 40 Posts: 258	But they are both Large Swords...meaning an unnecessary penalty! Also, can some one tell me which scimtars are particularly good for dual wielding? ie stats for the Ichor & Souless would be good! (don't think by naming names it would be a spoiler...) __________________ Knowing how to be an adult is knowing when to be a child.

01-07-2005, 07:03 AM	#2
Bozos of Bones Apophis Join Date: July 29, 2003 Location: The Underdark cavern of Zagreb Age: 38 Posts: 4,679	They are considered Large Swords only for the proficiency feat. They are indeed both lighter weapons, as proven by the Weapon Finesse. Good Scimitars are few, like Blood Trails, Acid, Defense, Souls/Soulless, Ichor to a lesser extent and the Hell's Fire(HoF I think). Using an active(Hell's, Souls) in the main hand and a passive(Defense) in the other is unbelieveably powerfull. __________________ MAKE LOVE, NOT SPAM!

01-07-2005, 07:39 AM	#3
shadowolf03 Drow Warrior Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: UK Age: 40 Posts: 258	So...if i take Weapon Finesse then the dual scimtars are considered light weapons? (i'll never understand these rules)... __________________ Knowing how to be an adult is knowing when to be a child.

01-07-2005, 09:17 AM	#4
Kitiara Dungeon Master Join Date: November 30, 2004 Location: west of nowhere Age: 38 Posts: 59	I thought that it was only daggers and shortswords that counted with weapon finess!! What other weapons are included? [ 01-07-2005, 09:19 AM: Message edited by: Kitiara ] __________________ ~Kitiara~<br />(the swede, and I don\'t mean the vegetable kind <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Wink]\" src=\"wink.gif\" /> )

01-07-2005, 09:48 AM	#5
Bozos of Bones Apophis Join Date: July 29, 2003 Location: The Underdark cavern of Zagreb Age: 38 Posts: 4,679	In the core 3rd ed rules, Weapon Finesse can only apply to Small weapons and rapiers. In the game there are no rapiers, so they added the Scimitar component. __________________ MAKE LOVE, NOT SPAM!

01-07-2005, 10:14 AM	#6
Kitiara Dungeon Master Join Date: November 30, 2004 Location: west of nowhere Age: 38 Posts: 59	ok, thanks for the info! __________________ ~Kitiara~<br />(the swede, and I don\'t mean the vegetable kind <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Wink]\" src=\"wink.gif\" /> )

01-07-2005, 04:54 PM	#7
shadowolf03 Drow Warrior Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: UK Age: 40 Posts: 258	Okay, so to sum it all up: Duel scimtars will have the same penalties as dual short swords. Which means there is no need for me to take weapon finesse, right? __________________ Knowing how to be an adult is knowing when to be a child.

01-07-2005, 05:13 PM	#8
Bozos of Bones Apophis Join Date: July 29, 2003 Location: The Underdark cavern of Zagreb Age: 38 Posts: 4,679	Erm... Weapon Finesse enables you to use Dexterity instead of Strength for hitting, not damaging. It is only useable on Small Blades(dagger, Short Sword) and the Scimitar. Scimitars have the same penalties as short swords when you dual them, as they are weapons of equal size. So I really don't get your question. Weapon Finesse is unusefull only if you use larger weapons, or your Str is greater than your Dex. __________________ MAKE LOVE, NOT SPAM!

01-08-2005, 08:05 AM	#9
shadowolf03 Drow Warrior Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: UK Age: 40 Posts: 258	Cool, I do believe the complicated rules make any question about them complicated, not only to ask, but also to answer clearly! But BoB does it well! Thanks! __________________ Knowing how to be an adult is knowing when to be a child.

01-08-2005, 08:07 AM	#10
Bozos of Bones Apophis Join Date: July 29, 2003 Location: The Underdark cavern of Zagreb Age: 38 Posts: 4,679	Heh, thanks! Always glad to be of service __________________ MAKE LOVE, NOT SPAM!

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