Mage Dagger +2

Marb · 01-23-2003, 11:18 AM

I have a Mage/Cleric who is not allowed to use the Mage Dagger +2. She's a half-elf, the dagger is grayed-out, with or without armour. The specs for the dagger clearly say that multi-class is okay, what am I missing here?

ZFR · 01-23-2003, 11:28 AM

clerics cannot use daggers.....

Lord Brass · 01-23-2003, 02:10 PM

Welcome marb! If you're not too familiar with the D&D ruleset then some confusion can occur. The dual/multi-classes have additional restrictions placed on them which may not be obvious at first glance. The Fighter/Druid for example is allowed to wear any armour, but can (still) only use those weapons allowable by their religion. You'll find that the restrictions make a certain sense after awhile.

Wumpspawner · 01-23-2003, 09:16 PM

This has both positive and negative sides to it. No, your mage/cleric cannot use daggers. BUT he/she may use maces, hammers, flails, and such, and may use a shield. You could armor them, too, but while armored he/she/it/that may not use their mage spells. But that's not too important. My mage has an AC of -9. You could probably get even lower than that with a nice spiffy shield.

SirWillow · 01-24-2003, 01:48 PM

Yeah, what ^^ said. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I'm curious though Wumpspawner, what are you using to get your mage to a -9 AC? Best I've managed on my mage before spell and song buffs is a -6.

pritchke · 01-24-2003, 02:02 PM

Possibly a number of things.

1. High Dex stat
2. Sheild +4 AC Max
3. Helmet +1 or +2 AC
4. decent Mage robe AC 5, or bracers possible that he as found elvish armor in the hand with even better AC and mage/clerics can still cast spells
5. Some type of cloak +1 or +2 AC

Wumpspawner · 01-25-2003, 11:40 PM

Dexterity of 19, Bracers of Defense A.C. 6, Cloak of Scintillating Colors, Cyclocone, Robe of Enfusing, and a Ring of Greater Resistance. Got to protect the artillery, you know.

Marb · 01-26-2003, 12:10 PM

Thanks to all for the replies to my question.
Since I am not familiar with all the D&D rules, I was wondering why I can't have a Mage/Druid character? Do they contradict each other?

Dace De'Briago · 01-26-2003, 12:18 PM

Valid multiclass combinations are:

DWARF
Fighter/Thief
Fighter/Cleric

ELF
Fighter/Mage
Fighter/Thief
Mage/Thief

GNOME
Fighter/Cleric
Fighter/Illusionist
Fighter/Thief
Cleric/Illusionist
Cleric/Thief
Illusionist/Thief

HALFLING
Fighter/Theif

Half-elf (here it comes...)
Fighter/Cleric*
Fighter/Thief
Fighter/Mage
Cleric*/Ranger
Cleric*/Mage
Thief/Mage
Fighter/Mage/Cleric
Fighter/Mage/Theof

* or DRUID

So we can have druid multiclasses. Though why anyone would want to be a tree loving hippy escapes me [img]smile.gif[/img]

ZFR · 01-27-2003, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dace De'Briago:

Half-elf (here it comes...)
Fighter/Cleric*
Fighter/Thief
Fighter/Mage
Cleric*/Ranger
Cleric*/Mage
Thief/Mage
Fighter/Mage/Cleric
Fighter/Mage/Theof

* or DRUID

So we can have druid multiclasses. Though why anyone would want to be a tree loving hippy escapes me [img]smile.gif[/img]

is this from the bg2 manual?
if yes then afaik this is wrong

the only multiclass for druid is fighter druid....

no cleric druid or mage druid...

01-23-2003, 11:28 AM	#2
ZFR Legion Symbol Join Date: February 14, 2002 Location: Ireland Age: 40 Posts: 7,368	clerics cannot use daggers..... __________________ ZFR

01-23-2003, 02:10 PM	#3
Lord Brass Emerald Dragon Join Date: September 17, 2001 Location: Good ol\' Blighty Age: 53 Posts: 913	Welcome marb! If you're not too familiar with the D&D ruleset then some confusion can occur. The dual/multi-classes have additional restrictions placed on them which may not be obvious at first glance. The Fighter/Druid for example is allowed to wear any armour, but can (still) only use those weapons allowable by their religion. You'll find that the restrictions make a certain sense after awhile. __________________ <b>I\'ve submitted to the Choc!</b>

01-23-2003, 09:16 PM	#4
Wumpspawner Manshoon Join Date: September 25, 2002 Location: St. George, Utah Age: 49 Posts: 166	This has both positive and negative sides to it. No, your mage/cleric cannot use daggers. BUT he/she may use maces, hammers, flails, and such, and may use a shield. You could armor them, too, but while armored he/she/it/that may not use their mage spells. But that's not too important. My mage has an AC of -9. You could probably get even lower than that with a nice spiffy shield. __________________ \"I\'m a simple man. All I want is enough sleep for two men, enough whiskey for three, and enough women for four.\" - Walter Slovotsky

01-24-2003, 01:48 PM	#5
SirWillow Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: June 25, 2001 Location: Ventura, CA USA Posts: 38	Yeah, what ^^ said. [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm curious though Wumpspawner, what are you using to get your mage to a -9 AC? Best I've managed on my mage before spell and song buffs is a -6. __________________ You mean I\'m supposed to put something intelligent sounding here?

01-25-2003, 11:40 PM	#7
Wumpspawner Manshoon Join Date: September 25, 2002 Location: St. George, Utah Age: 49 Posts: 166	Dexterity of 19, Bracers of Defense A.C. 6, Cloak of Scintillating Colors, Cyclocone, Robe of Enfusing, and a Ring of Greater Resistance. Got to protect the artillery, you know. __________________ \"I\'m a simple man. All I want is enough sleep for two men, enough whiskey for three, and enough women for four.\" - Walter Slovotsky

01-23-2003, 11:18 AM	#1
Marb Welcomed New User Join Date: January 21, 2003 Location: canada Age: 61 Posts: 2	I have a Mage/Cleric who is not allowed to use the Mage Dagger +2. She's a half-elf, the dagger is grayed-out, with or without armour. The specs for the dagger clearly say that multi-class is okay, what am I missing here?

01-24-2003, 02:02 PM	#6
pritchke Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: September 5, 2001 Location: Calgary, AB Age: 50 Posts: 3,491	Possibly a number of things. 1. High Dex stat 2. Sheild +4 AC Max 3. Helmet +1 or +2 AC 4. decent Mage robe AC 5, or bracers possible that he as found elvish armor in the hand with even better AC and mage/clerics can still cast spells 5. Some type of cloak +1 or +2 AC

01-26-2003, 12:10 PM	#8
Marb Welcomed New User Join Date: January 21, 2003 Location: canada Age: 61 Posts: 2	Thanks to all for the replies to my question. Since I am not familiar with all the D&D rules, I was wondering why I can't have a Mage/Druid character? Do they contradict each other?

01-26-2003, 12:18 PM	#9
Dace De'Briago Silver Dragon Join Date: December 28, 2002 Location: Wales Age: 45 Posts: 1,617	Valid multiclass combinations are: DWARF Fighter/Thief Fighter/Cleric ELF Fighter/Mage Fighter/Thief Mage/Thief GNOME Fighter/Cleric Fighter/Illusionist Fighter/Thief Cleric/Illusionist Cleric/Thief Illusionist/Thief HALFLING Fighter/Theif Half-elf (here it comes...) Fighter/Cleric* Fighter/Thief Fighter/Mage Cleric/Ranger Cleric/Mage Thief/Mage Fighter/Mage/Cleric Fighter/Mage/Theof * or DRUID So we can have druid multiclasses. Though why anyone would want to be a tree loving hippy escapes me [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Warning: Powergamer

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