IWD 2 Last Game

Baldassare · 08-22-2002, 07:11 PM

I read on another website that IWD 2 will be the last game using 2D bioware infinity engine. Is this true and if so why would they not continue the IWD and Baldurs Gate 2D engine seeing as it is EXTREMELY popular??

the new JR Jansen · 08-23-2002, 08:00 AM

It's true. At least, if we are to believe BIS. And you can thank Feargie for that. This guy has said before that the future of RPG's is 3D and real time (without pause) and they are creating a game, called Lionheart, so that they can shove it down our throats aswell.

I do have to disagree with your statement about the engine. I found it to be not that great.

SpiritWarrior · 08-27-2002, 08:07 PM

"I read on another website that IWD 2 will be the last game using 2D bioware infinity engine. Is this true and if so why would they not continue the IWD and Baldurs Gate 2D engine seeing as it is EXTREMELY popular??"

It is as you said, supposed to be the last of its kind BUT it wont be. This is nothing but a hunch really, a mix of logic and intuition but i'm almost sure there will be more 2d Infinity Engine games released by Bioware. Their official take on this is simply "Not at the moment". Think of how successful Baldurs Gate was...do you realize how much money that made them?
Yes the 2D infinity engine is certainly ageing....but it's ageing with style.
If it comes down to it heres the truth : these games still sell. As long as they do they'll keep making them. The harsh truth of any business, but for those of us who love Icewind Dale it's good news

Memnoch · 08-28-2002, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Baldassare:
I read on another website that IWD 2 will be the last game using 2D bioware infinity engine. Is this true and if so why would they not continue the IWD and Baldurs Gate 2D engine seeing as it is EXTREMELY popular??

At this stage it will be the last game - I think that the Infinity Engine may be in its death throes as far as Bio is concerned. They see the future in 3D and the Aurora engine used in NWN.

I have a hunch that before too long, when the IE is retired, that it may become Open Source eventually and the onus for creating/developing any additions may shift to the modding/customizing community. That's just my opinion, though...

Auril · 08-28-2002, 01:19 PM

I believe you may be right Memnoch. The fact is that Bioware definitely wants to move into 3D gaming. I myself have not played Neverwinter Nights and have heard both good and bad reviews of the game. Personally, I love the Infinity Engine. It may be old, but what does that matter? As long as good games can be made from it, that is all that counts. While flashy graphics do help, they don't make the game. The only 2D Infinity Engine games will now be left for the modding community to create.

andrewas · 08-28-2002, 01:51 PM

Infinity started showing signs of being overstretched when BG2 came out. TO keep on improving the engine and keep some kind of pace with modern games they likley need a complete overhaul. Very expensive.

Open Source though would be Very Cool. That would mean Linux BG. Mac ToB without waiting for Bioware to get around to it. And lets face it, they never will.

All kinds of neat stuff. More companies should go open source.

Lord Brass · 08-28-2002, 06:58 PM

I have to agree with SpiritWarrior on this: so long as it sells it's likely to keep selling - if you see what I mean. I imagine that they may make a final "farewell" add-on to IWD2, though this is mere speculation. As for it going to the community, this can only be a good thing surely?

As for saying that 2D is dead, well it's horses-for-courses as far as I'm concerned. Hell, I still enjoy a game of Might and Magic now and again. Personal taste I guess. As for me, I can't wait for IWD2 and it's ageing engine. I'm just envious of you blighters that will get it before the land of good Queen Victoria!

Baldassare · 08-28-2002, 09:41 PM

I can sense the envy as Lord Brass speaks!! Why, because he knows that I just quit my Icewind Dale II game a few minutes ago to come see what a few of you yahoo's think about it! It's definitely keeping my attention. But as far as the IWDII add-on. That is a no brainer. Every other one has had an add on so why be different for this one.

Lord Brass · 08-29-2002, 11:57 AM

You devilish sw1ne. I GRrrrrr at you in envy!

As for the add-on, I don't think that it's all that certain. With NWN and...Lionheart is it...they may just decide to forgo the pleasures of a pack and go straight for the swan song. Shame if they do though.

andrewas · 08-29-2002, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Baldassare:
I can sense the envy as Lord Brass speaks!! Why, because he knows that I just quit my Icewind Dale II game a few minutes ago to come see what a few of you yahoo's think about it! It's definitely keeping my attention. But as far as the IWDII add-on. That is a no brainer. Every other one has had an add on so why be different for this one.

PS:TR didnt have an expansion. But if it sells theyll probly do one. The cost of doing it being so low for a pretty much garaunteed return.

08-22-2002, 07:11 PM	#1
Baldassare Dungeon Master Join Date: January 20, 2002 Location: Baton Rouge LA Age: 54 Posts: 55	I read on another website that IWD 2 will be the last game using 2D bioware infinity engine. Is this true and if so why would they not continue the IWD and Baldurs Gate 2D engine seeing as it is EXTREMELY popular?? __________________ Through the 12th Gate I approach.

08-23-2002, 08:00 AM	#2
the new JR Jansen Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: May 8, 2002 Location: chocolate land Age: 50 Posts: 696	It's true. At least, if we are to believe BIS. And you can thank Feargie for that. This guy has said before that the future of RPG's is 3D and real time (without pause) and they are creating a game, called Lionheart, so that they can shove it down our throats aswell. I do have to disagree with your statement about the engine. I found it to be not that great. __________________ JR<br /><br /><br /><br />It\'s me. The guy with the cloak big enough for a fire giant and the long nose.<br />Owner of the most visited woodshed in Ironworks\' history.

08-27-2002, 08:07 PM	#3
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	"I read on another website that IWD 2 will be the last game using 2D bioware infinity engine. Is this true and if so why would they not continue the IWD and Baldurs Gate 2D engine seeing as it is EXTREMELY popular??" It is as you said, supposed to be the last of its kind BUT it wont be. This is nothing but a hunch really, a mix of logic and intuition but i'm almost sure there will be more 2d Infinity Engine games released by Bioware. Their official take on this is simply "Not at the moment". Think of how successful Baldurs Gate was...do you realize how much money that made them? Yes the 2D infinity engine is certainly ageing....but it's ageing with style. If it comes down to it heres the truth : these games still sell. As long as they do they'll keep making them. The harsh truth of any business, but for those of us who love Icewind Dale it's good news __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

08-28-2002, 01:19 PM	#5
Auril Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 21, 2002 Location: Los Angeles Age: 47 Posts: 22	I believe you may be right Memnoch. The fact is that Bioware definitely wants to move into 3D gaming. I myself have not played Neverwinter Nights and have heard both good and bad reviews of the game. Personally, I love the Infinity Engine. It may be old, but what does that matter? As long as good games can be made from it, that is all that counts. While flashy graphics do help, they don't make the game. The only 2D Infinity Engine games will now be left for the modding community to create. __________________ Power corrupts...<br />Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

08-28-2002, 01:51 PM	#6
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 4,774	Infinity started showing signs of being overstretched when BG2 came out. TO keep on improving the engine and keep some kind of pace with modern games they likley need a complete overhaul. Very expensive. Open Source though would be Very Cool. That would mean Linux BG. Mac ToB without waiting for Bioware to get around to it. And lets face it, they never will. All kinds of neat stuff. More companies should go open source. __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

08-28-2002, 06:58 PM	#7
Lord Brass Emerald Dragon Join Date: September 17, 2001 Location: Good ol\' Blighty Age: 53 Posts: 913	I have to agree with SpiritWarrior on this: so long as it sells it's likely to keep selling - if you see what I mean. I imagine that they may make a final "farewell" add-on to IWD2, though this is mere speculation. As for it going to the community, this can only be a good thing surely? As for saying that 2D is dead, well it's horses-for-courses as far as I'm concerned. Hell, I still enjoy a game of Might and Magic now and again. Personal taste I guess. As for me, I can't wait for IWD2 and it's ageing engine. I'm just envious of you blighters that will get it before the land of good Queen Victoria! __________________ <b>I\'ve submitted to the Choc!</b>

08-28-2002, 09:41 PM	#8
Baldassare Dungeon Master Join Date: January 20, 2002 Location: Baton Rouge LA Age: 54 Posts: 55	I can sense the envy as Lord Brass speaks!! Why, because he knows that I just quit my Icewind Dale II game a few minutes ago to come see what a few of you yahoo's think about it! It's definitely keeping my attention. But as far as the IWDII add-on. That is a no brainer. Every other one has had an add on so why be different for this one. __________________ Through the 12th Gate I approach.

08-29-2002, 11:57 AM	#9
Lord Brass Emerald Dragon Join Date: September 17, 2001 Location: Good ol\' Blighty Age: 53 Posts: 913	You devilish sw1ne. I GRrrrrr at you in envy! As for the add-on, I don't think that it's all that certain. With NWN and...Lionheart is it...they may just decide to forgo the pleasures of a pack and go straight for the swan song. Shame if they do though. __________________ <b>I\'ve submitted to the Choc!</b>

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