Symbol Hopelessness

Seraph · 01-24-2006, 05:27 PM

I'm currently playing a HOF party, and I just reached Dorns Deep and I'm having a problem. I've hit a pair of greater mummies along with the lich that respawns if you take to long, and I can't get past them. I can kill the lich quickly, and w/out any problems, but the mummies cast a spell that I think is symbol hopelessness. I can't figure out how to prevent it from effecting my characters, does anyone have any tips. All I really need is a good way to stop my characters from being frozen by the spell.

My party:
Level 13 Fighter
Level 12 Paladin
Level 11/10 Ranger/Cleric
Level 10/12 Figher/Druid
Level 11/13 Mage/Thief
Level 16 Bard
So I have a pretty diverse selection of spells.

Any tips?

ister · 01-24-2006, 05:37 PM

Doesn't free action work?

Dundee Slaytern · 01-24-2006, 05:39 PM

Chaotic Commands, and no, Free Action does not work.

Legolas · 01-24-2006, 06:18 PM

Alternatively, keep most of your party back so they can dispel the effects, or move on to kill the mummies or to stop the lich from respawning again.
It'll be unpleasant for your chosen lightning-rod, but then adventuring always has been nasty business.

Azred · 01-24-2006, 06:42 PM

Other than Chaotic Commands, if your Bard has access to Mind Blank then the Bard is safe for a long time. Magic Resistance, the 5th-level cleric spell, will also help. The one spell you really need is Impervious Sanctity of Mind.

Aerich · 01-24-2006, 09:09 PM

The party doesn't have many options for protection - a lvl 10 cleric can protect what, two characters with Chaotic Command?

You should have plenty of spells that increase your saving throws - with Hope, Recitation, and Prayer, you get a total of +5. Other than that, lead with summons (fire elementals are best) and use multiple caster-disruption spells.

Edit: and your bard should be singing the luck song, not war chant - it gives a further +3 to saves.

[ 01-24-2006, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: Aerich ]

Azred · 01-25-2006, 01:41 PM

If you can find them, Potions of Magic Shielding give a +20 [img]graemlins/saywhat.gif[/img] to your saving throws. The description says "all saving throws are made automatically".

Kyrvias · 01-25-2006, 08:53 PM

Potion of Magic Sheilding? Cheese 'n Crackers! A *real* adventurer would send someone forward to play "Heratio at the Bridge"

While the other characters run like hell past the lich and mummies.

Aerich · 01-25-2006, 09:56 PM

Bah! A true adventuring company destroys all evil undead, it doesn't sprint past them. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I don't think you have any potions of magic shielding by then anyway.

Kyrvias · 01-25-2006, 10:42 PM

you could... via... *gasp* Dalekeeper!

But that would be cheating... which is bad. So don't do it :@

01-24-2006, 05:37 PM	#2
ister Drow Warrior Join Date: January 12, 2005 Location: usa Age: 57 Posts: 291	Doesn't free action work? __________________ \" Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.\"<br />JFK

01-24-2006, 06:18 PM	#4
Legolas Jack Burton Join Date: March 31, 2001 Location: The zephyr lands beneath the brine. Age: 40 Posts: 5,459	Alternatively, keep most of your party back so they can dispel the effects, or move on to kill the mummies or to stop the lich from respawning again. It'll be unpleasant for your chosen lightning-rod, but then adventuring always has been nasty business. __________________ Say NO to the Trouser Tyranny!

01-24-2006, 06:42 PM	#5
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	Other than Chaotic Commands, if your Bard has access to Mind Blank then the Bard is safe for a long time. Magic Resistance, the 5th-level cleric spell, will also help. The one spell you really need is Impervious Sanctity of Mind. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

01-24-2006, 09:09 PM	#6
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 43 Posts: 2,061	The party doesn't have many options for protection - a lvl 10 cleric can protect what, two characters with Chaotic Command? You should have plenty of spells that increase your saving throws - with Hope, Recitation, and Prayer, you get a total of +5. Other than that, lead with summons (fire elementals are best) and use multiple caster-disruption spells. Edit: and your bard should be singing the luck song, not war chant - it gives a further +3 to saves. [ 01-24-2006, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: Aerich ] __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

01-25-2006, 01:41 PM	#7
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	If you can find them, Potions of Magic Shielding give a +20 [img]graemlins/saywhat.gif[/img] to your saving throws. The description says "all saving throws are made automatically". __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

01-24-2006, 05:27 PM	#1
Seraph Quintesson Join Date: September 12, 2001 Location: Ewing, NJ Age: 43 Posts: 1,079	I'm currently playing a HOF party, and I just reached Dorns Deep and I'm having a problem. I've hit a pair of greater mummies along with the lich that respawns if you take to long, and I can't get past them. I can kill the lich quickly, and w/out any problems, but the mummies cast a spell that I think is symbol hopelessness. I can't figure out how to prevent it from effecting my characters, does anyone have any tips. All I really need is a good way to stop my characters from being frozen by the spell. My party: Level 13 Fighter Level 12 Paladin Level 11/10 Ranger/Cleric Level 10/12 Figher/Druid Level 11/13 Mage/Thief Level 16 Bard So I have a pretty diverse selection of spells. Any tips?

01-24-2006, 05:39 PM	#3
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Chaotic Commands, and no, Free Action does not work.

01-25-2006, 08:53 PM	#8
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	Potion of Magic Sheilding? Cheese 'n Crackers! A real adventurer would send someone forward to play "Heratio at the Bridge" While the other characters run like hell past the lich and mummies.

01-25-2006, 09:56 PM	#9
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 43 Posts: 2,061	Bah! A true adventuring company destroys all evil undead, it doesn't sprint past them. [img]tongue.gif[/img] I don't think you have any potions of magic shielding by then anyway. __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

01-25-2006, 10:42 PM	#10
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	you could... via... gasp Dalekeeper! But that would be cheating... which is bad. So don't do it :@

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