WTF!!!???

Morgan_Corbesant · 02-13-2002, 05:41 PM

ok, this is upsetting me. EVERY SINGLE TIME i dual a thief to another class, i lose my trap setting abilities. no matter what kit i choose, or what class i dual to, i lose my trap skills. i dont lose any other skills, just my trap setting. is this supposed to happen?! i JUST reinstalled it because i got a new hard drive. it did it on the old one too, but now it is doing it on this one.

jabidas · 02-13-2002, 05:48 PM

I dont think your supposed to have any of your abilities until you get to a simialar level in your other class.

Helspanth · 02-13-2002, 06:05 PM

Jabidas is correct.
You will get your set traps skill once you cacth up with your former class along with your other skills.

[ 02-13-2002: Message edited by: Helspanth ]

Nifft the Nimble · 02-13-2002, 07:03 PM

Morgan is neither a newbie nor a fool. I'm sure he knows that he must wait until his new class level exceeds his old class level to use his thieving skills.

Morgan: you are NOT supposed to lose any skills from your old class. It sounds like a bug. Did you apply all the patches? Did you install ToB and its patch?

I know that I've done Bounty Hunter -> Mages and the trap setting worked fine (after the appropriate level).

-- Nifft

jabidas · 02-13-2002, 07:18 PM

nobody said anything about newbies or fools nifft

Morgan_Corbesant · 02-13-2002, 07:28 PM

thanx nifft, i think ill get the patch, maybe that is what it is. yes, i know i need to exceed the level of my previous class before i get abilities of the said class. ive been playing PnP, for years, and got this game the day it was on the shelf. if you read my post, it says that i get back all of my abilities EXCEPT the set traps skill. ill try the patch idea, and see if that is it.

SixOfSpades · 02-13-2002, 08:50 PM

Sounds like a call of "Shadowkeeper to the rescue!" to me......

But that's only because I harbor a certain distaste for downloading & installing something I don't completely understand.

A similar thing happened to me....I Dualed my Level 21 Assassin to Fighter, but when he got his Thieving skills back, ALL of them took a nasty hit. And he'd been a Fighter for so long I didn't even remember what to hack his Thieving skills back to! Aaarrgh. Good thing I had a Mage/Thief to take up the slack, though.

[ 02-13-2002: Message edited by: SixOfSpades ]

PoesRaven · 02-13-2002, 09:42 PM

I believe it is a bug, i have had a similar experience with Yoshimo believe it or not!!!! I dualled him to a fighter early on, when his Fighter level exceeded his BH by 1 he lost his traps!!! Dunno why, i never used em neway [img]smile.gif[/img]

Azred · 02-13-2002, 10:58 PM

BG2 treats setting traps or special traps as a form of "innate spell"; once you change your class those innate spells are wiped from your "memory". Unfortunately, when you reach the point where you should recover your abilities you don't recover those "spells" because your new class doesn't earn those abilities. This is definitely a case of "Shadowkeeper to the rescue".

02-13-2002, 05:41 PM	#1
Morgan_Corbesant Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 47 Posts: 1,224	ok, this is upsetting me. EVERY SINGLE TIME i dual a thief to another class, i lose my trap setting abilities. no matter what kit i choose, or what class i dual to, i lose my trap skills. i dont lose any other skills, just my trap setting. is this supposed to happen?! i JUST reinstalled it because i got a new hard drive. it did it on the old one too, but now it is doing it on this one. __________________ Morgan Corbesant, Elven BladeSinger, Captain of the army of the Seldarine<br /><br /> [img]\"http://www.rleeermey.com/images/linkbanners/usmcredwhiteblue.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Protector of Elves<br />Slayer of Orcs<br /><br />ALL YOUR BASE, ARE BELONG TO US!!!<br />I DON\'T FIGHT FOR HONOR, I FIGHT TO WIN!<br />\"One who is a samurai must before all things keep constantly in mind, by day and by night...the fact that he has to die\". <br />-Daidoji Yuzan-<br />16th Century

02-13-2002, 05:48 PM	#2
jabidas Silver Dragon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Agharti. Mountains of Madness Posts: 1,673	I dont think your supposed to have any of your abilities until you get to a simialar level in your other class. __________________ <br /><br />Non Serviam.

02-13-2002, 06:05 PM	#3
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 44 Posts: 1,050	Jabidas is correct. You will get your set traps skill once you cacth up with your former class along with your other skills. [ 02-13-2002: Message edited by: Helspanth ] __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

02-13-2002, 07:18 PM	#5
jabidas Silver Dragon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Agharti. Mountains of Madness Posts: 1,673	nobody said anything about newbies or fools nifft __________________ <br /><br />Non Serviam.

02-13-2002, 07:28 PM	#6
Morgan_Corbesant Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 47 Posts: 1,224	thanx nifft, i think ill get the patch, maybe that is what it is. yes, i know i need to exceed the level of my previous class before i get abilities of the said class. ive been playing PnP, for years, and got this game the day it was on the shelf. if you read my post, it says that i get back all of my abilities EXCEPT the set traps skill. ill try the patch idea, and see if that is it. __________________ Morgan Corbesant, Elven BladeSinger, Captain of the army of the Seldarine<br /><br /> [img]\"http://www.rleeermey.com/images/linkbanners/usmcredwhiteblue.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Protector of Elves<br />Slayer of Orcs<br /><br />ALL YOUR BASE, ARE BELONG TO US!!!<br />I DON\'T FIGHT FOR HONOR, I FIGHT TO WIN!<br />\"One who is a samurai must before all things keep constantly in mind, by day and by night...the fact that he has to die\". <br />-Daidoji Yuzan-<br />16th Century

02-13-2002, 07:03 PM	#4
Nifft the Nimble Avatar Join Date: October 4, 2001 Location: NYC Forever! Age: 51 Posts: 520	Morgan is neither a newbie nor a fool. I'm sure he knows that he must wait until his new class level exceeds his old class level to use his thieving skills. Morgan: you are NOT supposed to lose any skills from your old class. It sounds like a bug. Did you apply all the patches? Did you install ToB and its patch? I know that I've done Bounty Hunter -> Mages and the trap setting worked fine (after the appropriate level). -- Nifft

02-13-2002, 08:50 PM	#7
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	Sounds like a call of "Shadowkeeper to the rescue!" to me...... But that's only because I harbor a certain distaste for downloading & installing something I don't completely understand. A similar thing happened to me....I Dualed my Level 21 Assassin to Fighter, but when he got his Thieving skills back, ALL of them took a nasty hit. And he'd been a Fighter for so long I didn't even remember what to hack his Thieving skills back to! Aaarrgh. Good thing I had a Mage/Thief to take up the slack, though. [ 02-13-2002: Message edited by: SixOfSpades ] __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

02-13-2002, 09:42 PM	#8
PoesRaven Manshoon Join Date: September 6, 2001 Posts: 169	I believe it is a bug, i have had a similar experience with Yoshimo believe it or not!!!! I dualled him to a fighter early on, when his Fighter level exceeded his BH by 1 he lost his traps!!! Dunno why, i never used em neway [img]smile.gif[/img]

02-13-2002, 10:58 PM	#9
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	BG2 treats setting traps or special traps as a form of "innate spell"; once you change your class those innate spells are wiped from your "memory". Unfortunately, when you reach the point where you should recover your abilities you don't recover those "spells" because your new class doesn't earn those abilities. This is definitely a case of "Shadowkeeper to the rescue". __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

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