Permanent +stat instances

TheGlow · 06-23-2004, 10:46 PM

I forget, what are all the occasions of permanent + or - of stats?
I know bg1 has a +1 for each. I dont recall all of bg2's. Including ToB as well if possible.

Lord · 06-23-2004, 11:31 PM

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In BG2, an encounter in a dream causes a -1 in the stat that you chose to lose it in.
In the Abyss (last chapter), you can gain a couple of stats.

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In Watcher's Keep, on the 4th level, the machine of Lum the Mad will raise all of your stats by +1.

Firestormalpha · 06-23-2004, 11:59 PM

There are also the manual/tome occasions Lord. I think those are the specific occasions TheGlow is looking for. Then again he could be looking for all occasions of a permanent stat increase. I believe in BG:TotSC there is actually an opportunity to get +2 in wisdom depending on the manner in which you play.

Dace De'Briago · 06-24-2004, 01:42 AM

BG 1
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STR +1
DEX +1
CON +1
INT +1
WIS +3 (one of these in Durlags Tower, so requires TOTSC)
CHA +1

BG 2: SoA
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'The Transformation and the dream', -1 to STR, DEX, CON or WIS.

Tears of Bhaal Choices.
FEAR TEAR (the Nymph cloak)
Good: Immunity to +1 weapons or less
Evil: +2 CON

SELFISHNESS TEAR (sacrifice for companion)
Good: +10 resistance to magic
Evil: +2 to your AC

GREED TEAR (the Blackrazor sword)
Good: +2 to all saving throws
Evil: +15 to HP

PRIDE TEAR (the dragon)
Good: +20% resistances to fire, cold and electricity
Evil: Gain 200,000 experience

WRATH TEAR (Sarevok)
Good: +1 to WIS and CHA
Evil: +2 to STR

BG 2: ToB
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+1 to all Stats, Machine of Lum the Mad
+1 to Primary Stat, Deck of Many Things (Watchers Keep)

Items
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There are so many items that modify stats it is largely pointless to mention them. Armour, rings, ioun stones... you can work these out yourself.

SixOfSpades · 06-24-2004, 04:18 AM

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Originally posted by Dace De'Briago:
'The Transformation and the dream', -1 to STR, DEX, CON or WIS.

Actually -1 to DEX, CON, INT or WIS.

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SELFISHNESS TEAR (sacrifice for companion)
Good: +10 resistance to magic
Evil: +2 to your AC

Good also carries -1 to DEX.

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WRATH TEAR (Sarevok)
Good: +1 to WIS and CHA
Evil: +2 to STR

Evil also gives +1 to primary stat.

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+1 to all Stats, Machine of Lum the Mad

I would note that the stat bonuses are applied one at a time, and you can choose which party member will recieve each one.

If you have the Improved Hell Trials mod installed, there are also the following stat-adjusting paths:
WRATH TEAR-- Neutral: +3 to INT
FEAR TEAR-- Neutral: +3 to DEX

[ 06-24-2004, 04:28 AM: Message edited by: SixOfSpades ]

TheGlow · 06-24-2004, 06:38 PM

Nod, thats what Im looking for. Working up a chaotic neutral Fighter/Assassin. So was wondering where all the +str/dex and con was at.
To the abyss with the other 3.

06-23-2004, 11:31 PM	#2
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 40 Posts: 3,302	SoA SPOILERS ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ In BG2, an encounter in a dream causes a -1 in the stat that you chose to lose it in. In the Abyss (last chapter), you can gain a couple of stats. ToB SPOILERS ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ THESE ARE ToB, NOT SoA,DON'T READ UNLESS YOU HAVE PLAYED THROUGH ToB!!! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ In Watcher's Keep, on the 4th level, the machine of Lum the Mad will raise all of your stats by +1. __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

06-23-2004, 11:59 PM	#3
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 41 Posts: 4,454	There are also the manual/tome occasions Lord. I think those are the specific occasions TheGlow is looking for. Then again he could be looking for all occasions of a permanent stat increase. I believe in BG:TotSC there is actually an opportunity to get +2 in wisdom depending on the manner in which you play. __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

06-24-2004, 01:42 AM	#4
Dace De'Briago Silver Dragon Join Date: December 28, 2002 Location: Wales Age: 44 Posts: 1,617	BG 1 ** STR +1 DEX +1 CON +1 INT +1 WIS +3 (one of these in Durlags Tower, so requires TOTSC) CHA +1 BG 2: SoA ***** 'The Transformation and the dream', -1 to STR, DEX, CON or WIS. Tears of Bhaal Choices. FEAR TEAR (the Nymph cloak) Good: Immunity to +1 weapons or less Evil: +2 CON SELFISHNESS TEAR (sacrifice for companion) Good: +10 resistance to magic Evil: +2 to your AC GREED TEAR (the Blackrazor sword) Good: +2 to all saving throws Evil: +15 to HP PRIDE TEAR (the dragon) Good: +20% resistances to fire, cold and electricity Evil: Gain 200,000 experience WRATH TEAR (Sarevok) Good: +1 to WIS and CHA Evil: +2 to STR BG 2: ToB ***** +1 to all Stats, Machine of Lum the Mad +1 to Primary Stat, Deck of Many Things (Watchers Keep) Items *** There are so many items that modify stats it is largely pointless to mention them. Armour, rings, ioun stones... you can work these out yourself. __________________ Warning: Powergamer

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06-23-2004, 10:46 PM	#1
TheGlow Dungeon Master Join Date: April 26, 2004 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 61	I forget, what are all the occasions of permanent + or - of stats? I know bg1 has a +1 for each. I dont recall all of bg2's. Including ToB as well if possible.

06-24-2004, 06:38 PM	#6
TheGlow Dungeon Master Join Date: April 26, 2004 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 61	Nod, thats what Im looking for. Working up a chaotic neutral Fighter/Assassin. So was wondering where all the +str/dex and con was at. To the abyss with the other 3.

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