The Key to More Summonings (Spoilers)

Gangrell · 01-31-2004, 04:03 AM

I've been reading through the forums and I bumped into a ToB post that mentioned something about being able to get more than 5 summoned monsters onto the field.

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Now I know what I'm asking has a lot of cheese in it, but I'm curious. I know you use Simulacrum and Project Image, but is there an order they have to be done in to do it?

And to add a little bit more to this thread, in your personal opinions, what is the best animal/monster summoning available? I would go with the Greater Bearwere, it has helped me a great deal with battles in the past. Best summoning to have in a battle with wizards or otherwise.

[ 01-31-2004, 04:07 AM: Message edited by: Gangrell ]

Userunfriendly · 01-31-2004, 04:21 AM

really simple...just cast either spell, or for jaheira use the helm, and summon, keep summoning, summon...

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 01-31-2004, 12:27 PM

Naturally Planetars get my vote...
But for sheer power for your casting effort, Skeleton Warriors have to get a nod.
They have MR and are resistant to physical damage... Assuming nobody turns undead, you have a small army at your command.
Even if it's a bit... evil.. to animate the dead.

Dundee can probably tell you more. He's the one who turned me on to the Many Vitrues of Skeleton Warriors.

Rataxes · 01-31-2004, 01:03 PM

The Aerial Servant would be my favourite. He isn't bestowed with any nifty features like the physical immunity of Mordies, or the extreme MR of the Skeleton Warrior, there's really nothing that special about him at all. He just happens to possess the most wicked punch in the game. Comparing only pure hit power, not even the Planetar can match him, though the Planetar is for a lot of other reasons the superior fighter. The only summon that hits harder is Sunnis, the Earth Elemental Prince, though being second to him aint a shame.

Nothing like the satisfaction of seeing your Aerial Servant chunkifying a foe with an 80 dmg critical.

[ 01-31-2004, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ]

SixOfSpades · 01-31-2004, 06:46 PM

I'd like to take this moment to tout the virtues of the Wand of Fodder, especially against Tactics Mages. Sure, almost all of them have Death Spells, but they tend not to use if if they can see a party member, and it's fun to watch the interchange:
Mage- Ha ha ha HAAAA! I have Spell Immunity: Abjuration, so you can't remove my Protection from Magic Weapons! You poor pitiful FOOLS!!!
Imoen- (waves a little stick)
5 Gnoll Slashers- GrrrrRAWF!
Mage- Aw crap!

Dundee Slaytern · 02-01-2004, 09:35 PM

Not a very good example to use, SixOfSpades, as Spell Immunity:Abjuration will not protect against Breach for example.

However, the point gets across I think.

SixOfSpades · 02-02-2004, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Spell Immunity:Abjuration will not protect against Breach for example.

Well, whether or not SI:Abj will block Breack or not, I don't think anyone will debate the point that it certainly should.

So just pretend I said "Improved Invisibility and SI

iv" instead. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Jerr Conner · 02-02-2004, 04:37 PM

If you use the Limited Wish spell to summon a horde to overrun your enemies, you get a special horde.

I got 20 bunnies...

Dundee Slaytern · 02-02-2004, 09:03 PM

Those 20 bunnies are very deadly when used correctly.

Jerr Conner · 02-02-2004, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Those 20 bunnies are very deadly when used correctly.

Too bad I can't control them :C(

01-31-2004, 04:21 AM	#2
Userunfriendly Elminster Join Date: October 11, 2003 Location: Sluggy Zone Age: 59 Posts: 487	really simple...just cast either spell, or for jaheira use the helm, and summon, keep summoning, summon... __________________ Jansens aren\'t as harmless like everybody supposes! <br />They got them stumpy legs and puffy potato noses! <br />And what\'s with all the turnips? <br />Why do they eat so much root vegetables, anyway? <br />Jansens, Jansens,<br />It must be Jansens!!!<br />(or griffins!)

01-31-2004, 12:27 PM	#3
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	Naturally Planetars get my vote... But for sheer power for your casting effort, Skeleton Warriors have to get a nod. They have MR and are resistant to physical damage... Assuming nobody turns undead, you have a small army at your command. Even if it's a bit... evil.. to animate the dead. Dundee can probably tell you more. He's the one who turned me on to the Many Vitrues of Skeleton Warriors. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

01-31-2004, 01:03 PM	#4
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	The Aerial Servant would be my favourite. He isn't bestowed with any nifty features like the physical immunity of Mordies, or the extreme MR of the Skeleton Warrior, there's really nothing that special about him at all. He just happens to possess the most wicked punch in the game. Comparing only pure hit power, not even the Planetar can match him, though the Planetar is for a lot of other reasons the superior fighter. The only summon that hits harder is Sunnis, the Earth Elemental Prince, though being second to him aint a shame. Nothing like the satisfaction of seeing your Aerial Servant chunkifying a foe with an 80 dmg critical. [ 01-31-2004, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ] __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

01-31-2004, 06:46 PM	#5
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	I'd like to take this moment to tout the virtues of the Wand of Fodder, especially against Tactics Mages. Sure, almost all of them have Death Spells, but they tend not to use if if they can see a party member, and it's fun to watch the interchange: Mage- Ha ha ha HAAAA! I have Spell Immunity: Abjuration, so you can't remove my Protection from Magic Weapons! You poor pitiful FOOLS!!! Imoen- (waves a little stick) 5 Gnoll Slashers- GrrrrRAWF! Mage- Aw crap! __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

02-02-2004, 04:37 PM	#8
Jerr Conner Silver Dragon Join Date: January 24, 2002 Location: Mundania Age: 43 Posts: 1,634	If you use the Limited Wish spell to summon a horde to overrun your enemies, you get a special horde. I got 20 bunnies... __________________ <b>Founder of the NPC Defender Force</b>, <b>Affiliate of the Pro-Mazzy Society</b><br />\"I hate to admit it but you\'ve earned my respect.\"--Shar-Teel (Thanks for this Illumina Drathiran\'ar)<br /> [img]\"http://userpic.livejournal.com/14048184/35120\" alt=\" - \" />

01-31-2004, 04:03 AM	#1
Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 37 Posts: 4,835	I've been reading through the forums and I bumped into a ToB post that mentioned something about being able to get more than 5 summoned monsters onto the field. Spoilers... * * * * * * * Now I know what I'm asking has a lot of cheese in it, but I'm curious. I know you use Simulacrum and Project Image, but is there an order they have to be done in to do it? And to add a little bit more to this thread, in your personal opinions, what is the best animal/monster summoning available? I would go with the Greater Bearwere, it has helped me a great deal with battles in the past. Best summoning to have in a battle with wizards or otherwise. [ 01-31-2004, 04:07 AM: Message edited by: Gangrell ]

02-01-2004, 09:35 PM	#6
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Not a very good example to use, SixOfSpades, as Spell Immunity:Abjuration will not protect against Breach for example. However, the point gets across I think.

02-02-2004, 09:03 PM	#9
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Those 20 bunnies are very deadly when used correctly.

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