Defeating Kuroisan solo blade?

Gilion · 09-19-2003, 03:33 PM

Back for more advice. Have tried to read the posts about our famous acid kensai and have beaten him easily with party. However now i'm single blade, currently level 16 and just cannot see how to bury him!. My summons from wand cannot hurt him enough as his regen is incredible. Spiders and Skeleton warriors last a tiny bit longer but fall as well. Any advice?, spoilers are very welcome.

Xen · 09-19-2003, 03:40 PM

Level 16? Use Stoneskins,PfMW,PfMA and Mislead! I am not sure but I think that when you are under Mislead he can`t see you. Also if you have ToB you can buy Firetooth Crossbow and hit Kuro with Normal Kuo-Toa bolts.(It will bypass his Stoneskin)

Leslie · 09-19-2003, 03:53 PM

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Yeah, Mislead can kick his butt, but your THAC0 might be a problem, so after casting Mislead and hiding your clone somewhere, Tenser's Transformation will help.

JrKASperov · 09-19-2003, 04:11 PM

The blade is a more powerful version of the fighter/mage multiclass

So he should be rather easy. Use PfMW! Or Mislead. I guess your problem is the acidic backlash, isn't there some 4th level spell which grants complete immunity to acid?

Link · 09-19-2003, 04:24 PM

Or otherwise a scroll can help you out [img]smile.gif[/img] Protection from Acid and maybe some fancy ring or something, and it will actually heal you [img]smile.gif[/img]

Devv · 09-19-2003, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by JrKASperov:
The blade is a more powerful version of the fighter/mage multiclass So he should be rather easy. Use PfMW! Or Mislead. I guess your problem is the acidic backlash, isn't there some 4th level spell which grants complete immunity to acid?

It is? I am a bit of a bard noob, but I always felt that a Blades thaco was too low to compare to a fighter/mage. The 1 proficiency only and level 6 spells max sucks too. Their offensive spin isn't anywhere near as damaging as GWW either.

Xen · 09-19-2003, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Devv:

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Originally posted by JrKASperov:
The blade is a more powerful version of the fighter/mage multiclass So he should be rather easy. Use PfMW! Or Mislead. I guess your problem is the acidic backlash, isn't there some 4th level spell which grants complete immunity to acid?

It is? I am a bit of a bard noob, but I always felt that a Blades thaco was too low to compare to a fighter/mage. The 1 proficiency only and level 6 spells max sucks too. Their offensive spin isn't anywhere near as damaging as GWW either. [/QUOTE]My toughts exactely. He isn`t more powerful. But he can be one of the most over powered characters in the game. Oh and the F/M also get`s Mage HLA`s. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Leslie · 09-19-2003, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Devv:

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Originally posted by JrKASperov:
The blade is a more powerful version of the fighter/mage multiclass So he should be rather easy. Use PfMW! Or Mislead. I guess your problem is the acidic backlash, isn't there some 4th level spell which grants complete immunity to acid?

It is? I am a bit of a bard noob, but I always felt that a Blades thaco was too low to compare to a fighter/mage. The 1 proficiency only and level 6 spells max sucks too. Their offensive spin isn't anywhere near as damaging as GWW either. [/QUOTE]Someone could make a calculation:
GWW and average damage with FOA - Fighter - 10 attacks
Improved haste + (dual wield for ex. FOA + Scarlet Ninja-To (for extra attack)) + Offensive Spin (Max. Damage) - 8 attacks

I don't think it's such a big difference and Blade can protect really well (Stoneskins, PFMW, ...) while fighter will usually need to be healed somehow.

BTW - I never ever used Tenser's Transformation except with Kuroisan fight in my entire solo run through SOA - THAC0 was good enough.

Devv · 09-19-2003, 06:23 PM

Were comparing Blade to fighter/mage Leslie, not pure class fighter [img]smile.gif[/img] The fighter/mage gets all the blades spells and more. I recently rolled a skald, but I am very dissapointed about the song. If you drift the tinest away from the party for 2 seconds even, they lose the song effects :/ I wanted a backup caster standing back singing when he isn't casting, but instead I have to be right next to every fighter or the song doesn't work.

Because the skald was a dissapointment, I would like to try a Blade, but I am not sure how to make the best use of him (people here are saying he is very powerful). Is he ever as strong as a swashbuckler/mage?

Gilion · 09-19-2003, 07:04 PM

Thanks guys,

Using mislead actually makes me survive longer. Still have a problem with thaco and damage on him. I have yet to find Tensers transformation, where to find it?. Have not used pfmw yet, should do fine with mislead if i can find tensers. The acidic backlash is not a prob, have scrolls for that.

txs

09-19-2003, 03:53 PM	#3
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	Spoilers . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yeah, Mislead can kick his butt, but your THAC0 might be a problem, so after casting Mislead and hiding your clone somewhere, Tenser's Transformation will help. __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

09-19-2003, 04:11 PM	#4
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 39 Posts: 1,701	The blade is a more powerful version of the fighter/mage multiclass So he should be rather easy. Use PfMW! Or Mislead. I guess your problem is the acidic backlash, isn't there some 4th level spell which grants complete immunity to acid? __________________ God is in the rain.

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09-19-2003, 03:33 PM	#1
Gilion Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 8, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 53 Posts: 6	Back for more advice. Have tried to read the posts about our famous acid kensai and have beaten him easily with party. However now i'm single blade, currently level 16 and just cannot see how to bury him!. My summons from wand cannot hurt him enough as his regen is incredible. Spiders and Skeleton warriors last a tiny bit longer but fall as well. Any advice?, spoilers are very welcome.

09-19-2003, 03:40 PM	#2
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Level 16? Use Stoneskins,PfMW,PfMA and Mislead! I am not sure but I think that when you are under Mislead he can`t see you. Also if you have ToB you can buy Firetooth Crossbow and hit Kuro with Normal Kuo-Toa bolts.(It will bypass his Stoneskin)

09-19-2003, 04:24 PM	#5
Link Jack Burton Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: The Netherlands Age: 40 Posts: 5,888	Or otherwise a scroll can help you out [img]smile.gif[/img] Protection from Acid and maybe some fancy ring or something, and it will actually heal you [img]smile.gif[/img]

09-19-2003, 06:23 PM	#9
Devv The Magister Join Date: August 19, 2003 Location: Amn, city of coin Age: 42 Posts: 138	Were comparing Blade to fighter/mage Leslie, not pure class fighter [img]smile.gif[/img] The fighter/mage gets all the blades spells and more. I recently rolled a skald, but I am very dissapointed about the song. If you drift the tinest away from the party for 2 seconds even, they lose the song effects :/ I wanted a backup caster standing back singing when he isn't casting, but instead I have to be right next to every fighter or the song doesn't work. Because the skald was a dissapointment, I would like to try a Blade, but I am not sure how to make the best use of him (people here are saying he is very powerful). Is he ever as strong as a swashbuckler/mage?

09-19-2003, 07:04 PM	#10
Gilion Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 8, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 53 Posts: 6	Thanks guys, Using mislead actually makes me survive longer. Still have a problem with thaco and damage on him. I have yet to find Tensers transformation, where to find it?. Have not used pfmw yet, should do fine with mislead if i can find tensers. The acidic backlash is not a prob, have scrolls for that. txs

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