Fulcrum or FoA in my main hand ?

daan · 05-13-2003, 11:33 AM

Pretty obvious topic [img]tongue.gif[/img]

My cleric/ranger is a little undecided. I mean, FoA brings some nice perks.. but Fulcrum has grandmastery and slivers ... as far as I can tell Fulcrum is dealing more damage.

Soooo, let loose with the club and switch when mages pop up .. or keep FoA in my main hand ?

I'm pretty sure Jim or Alson calculated this sometime [img]tongue.gif[/img] .. come on .. share the love [img]graemlins/shine.gif[/img]

[ 05-13-2003, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: daan ]

IronDragon · 05-13-2003, 11:48 AM

I believe it was Dundee who did a boatload of math demonstrating that FoA is the most devastating weapon in the game. Of course I can no longer find the link to that impressive piece of gamesmanship. FoA damage is linked to its elemental damage and the fact that it will slow opponents when hit.

When I am playing a Ranger/Cleric I always use it in my main hand.
If I am not using it my best warrior always is. True you have to assign a proficiency slot to flails for Minsc, Valygar or Anomen to use it but it is devastating in their hands

Tiny spoiler:
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in ToB you will be able to upgrade FoA by adding two new heads making it a +5 weapon.

Leslie · 05-13-2003, 12:39 PM

Yep. This is how it goes with R/C:

Mace of Disruption - Undead dead
Flail of Ages - mage dead
Crom Faeyr - golem dead
Fulcrum - everyone else dead

daan · 05-13-2003, 01:55 PM

True enough,... but as Fulcrum is a modded weapon I'm not sure if it was considered with respect to the calculations ...
Dundee ? [img]graemlins/angel.gif[/img]

Dundee Slaytern · 05-13-2003, 02:02 PM

Eh? Too late at night( or early in the morning if you will) for me to go number crunching. I will see what I can do tomorrow. I am assuming your FoA is the +3 enchanted version, because I highly doubt the +5 version can be defeated.

daan · 05-13-2003, 02:26 PM

[img]graemlins/dance2.gif[/img] Didnt mean to imply for you to start number crunching. Just if you had already considered the Fulcrum. But hey

Ask for a dollar, receive a million .. good enough for me

Rataxes · 05-13-2003, 02:38 PM

Fulcrum +4 beats even FoA +5 damage-wise as long as GWW isn't being used, and you're not fighting True Neutrals

Though I can imagine a solo R/C using GWW quite a lot, it's still not something you can have active all the time, base APR does matter, even post-GWW.

Leslie · 05-13-2003, 03:46 PM

Cool. Looking forward for some math from the experts.

My solo R/C Aragorn is now deep in TOB (in Amkethran) and deciding whether to go left or right. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Zarr · 05-13-2003, 05:08 PM

Where do you find fulcrum +4? I don't remember discovering this weapon, is it from a mod?

Leslie · 05-13-2003, 05:23 PM

Yes, from a Item Upgrade mod. Combined Gnasher and Bone Club.

05-13-2003, 11:33 AM	#1
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 39 Posts: 1,644	Pretty obvious topic [img]tongue.gif[/img] My cleric/ranger is a little undecided. I mean, FoA brings some nice perks.. but Fulcrum has grandmastery and slivers ... as far as I can tell Fulcrum is dealing more damage. Soooo, let loose with the club and switch when mages pop up .. or keep FoA in my main hand ? I'm pretty sure Jim or Alson calculated this sometime [img]tongue.gif[/img] .. come on .. share the love [img]graemlins/shine.gif[/img] [ 05-13-2003, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: daan ] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

05-13-2003, 11:48 AM	#2
IronDragon Elminster Join Date: January 16, 2003 Location: Michigan Age: 59 Posts: 419	I believe it was Dundee who did a boatload of math demonstrating that FoA is the most devastating weapon in the game. Of course I can no longer find the link to that impressive piece of gamesmanship. FoA damage is linked to its elemental damage and the fact that it will slow opponents when hit. When I am playing a Ranger/Cleric I always use it in my main hand. If I am not using it my best warrior always is. True you have to assign a proficiency slot to flails for Minsc, Valygar or Anomen to use it but it is devastating in their hands Tiny spoiler: ~ ~ ~ ~ in ToB you will be able to upgrade FoA by adding two new heads making it a +5 weapon. __________________ Ever notice that "What The Hell!" is always the right decision?- Marilyn Monroe

05-13-2003, 12:39 PM	#3
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	Yep. This is how it goes with R/C: Mace of Disruption - Undead dead Flail of Ages - mage dead Crom Faeyr - golem dead Fulcrum - everyone else dead __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

05-13-2003, 01:55 PM	#4
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 39 Posts: 1,644	True enough,... but as Fulcrum is a modded weapon I'm not sure if it was considered with respect to the calculations ... Dundee ? [img]graemlins/angel.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

05-13-2003, 02:26 PM	#6
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 39 Posts: 1,644	[img]graemlins/dance2.gif[/img] Didnt mean to imply for you to start number crunching. Just if you had already considered the Fulcrum. But hey Ask for a dollar, receive a million .. good enough for me __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

05-13-2003, 02:02 PM	#5
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Eh? Too late at night( or early in the morning if you will) for me to go number crunching. I will see what I can do tomorrow. I am assuming your FoA is the +3 enchanted version, because I highly doubt the +5 version can be defeated.

05-13-2003, 02:38 PM	#7
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	Fulcrum +4 beats even FoA +5 damage-wise as long as GWW isn't being used, and you're not fighting True Neutrals Though I can imagine a solo R/C using GWW quite a lot, it's still not something you can have active all the time, base APR does matter, even post-GWW. __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

05-13-2003, 03:46 PM	#8
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	Cool. Looking forward for some math from the experts. My solo R/C Aragorn is now deep in TOB (in Amkethran) and deciding whether to go left or right. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

05-13-2003, 05:08 PM	#9
Zarr Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 19, 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 41 Posts: 1,330	Where do you find fulcrum +4? I don't remember discovering this weapon, is it from a mod? __________________ Minsc - \"Don\'t ask questions better left to aged sages\"<br /><br />\"You must gather your party before venturing forth\". BANG shoots him dead

05-13-2003, 05:23 PM	#10
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	Yes, from a Item Upgrade mod. Combined Gnasher and Bone Club. __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

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