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Old 01-15-2003, 06:10 PM   #1
Dace De'Briago
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Hello there.

I was just wondering how you fellows would defeat the grumpy little demon on the last level of Watchers Keep.

I'm soloing a Kensai/Mage 21/22 level.

I specifically need to know what his weaknesses are, do timestops work, does he have magic resistances etc etc.

Cheers lubbers [img]tongue.gif[/img]

PS. Demogorgon is it?
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Old 01-15-2003, 06:16 PM   #2
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Yes, demogorgon. Timestops dont work on him. I dont remember if he has mr or not. He isnt that hard, though. Im sure the regulars can give you some good advice.

http://gamebanshee.com/baldursgateii...demogorgon.php
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Old 01-15-2003, 09:37 PM   #3
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Grumpy, indeed. The Demogorgon fight had me scratching my head for a bit as well. Dragon's Breaths, Comets, and "lesser" spells (Magic Missile, Melf's Arrow, Skull Trap, etc.) rolled off him like water off a duck. On top of that, he seems to regenerate at a fairly healthy rate and has healthy resistances. All around yucky for any adventuring mage.

I would heartily suggest making intelligent use of the following:
--Simulacrum (if it can cast anything helpful)
--Project Image (w/Spell Immunity: Divination to protect from True Sight)
--"Meat": Fallen Planetars, Mordy's Swords, Skeleton Warriors. Virtually anything you can stuff in that room to keep Demo busy.
--Improved Alacrity. There's really nothing quite like it.
--Resist-lowering spells. Pierce Magic, Lower Resist, etc.
--Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting. This was virtually the only thing I could get to damage Demogorgon.
--Chain Contingency. Enemy-Sighted -> 3x Wilting is always nice.

My solution (over)simplified:
Project Image -> Alacrity -> SI: Div -> "Meat" -> -Resists% -> Wilt ad nauseam.

Something like that is definitely plausible. (It worked for me. Roughly.) Being a Kensai/Mage, you may even be able to score close-combat hits on him. His AC is still quite formidable, though (-12 or somesuch?).

Or you could try Dundee's "Bunny Nuke" technique.

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Old 01-16-2003, 06:34 AM   #4
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If you happened to get greater whirlwind attack as the 2nd of your fighter class HLA's(you would have to have selected whirlwind attack as youre first), it will help you immensly.
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Old 01-16-2003, 06:56 AM   #5
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Oversimplified:
Potion of speed/whirlwind, Ki strike, chop. And just hope he dies before you do...
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Old 01-16-2003, 11:57 AM   #6
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Well I just got there yesterday as well...and when the ghost said that the imprisoned one was the prince of demons I actually made a second thought of casting that scroll..., but Im no chicken and that beast is going down and this will be a most extraordinary moment to try out the bunny nuke tactic ..
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Old 01-16-2003, 12:12 PM   #7
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What sis the bunny nuke tactic? (I assume it invovles limited wish)
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Old 01-16-2003, 12:45 PM   #8
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bunny nuke did nothing to him, but he fell pretty too darn easy in the old fashioned way....
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Old 01-16-2003, 01:29 PM   #9
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Lure some of the lesser demons onto the upper level and cast two Mord's Swords on each stair case, they should distract and stop the the demons from attacking you while you concerntrate on Demogorgon
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Old 01-16-2003, 01:31 PM   #10
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I mostly agree with Lemmy's ideas... slight nitpick, though:

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Originally posted by Lemmy:
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--Resist-lowering spells. Pierce Magic, Lower Resist, etc.

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Demogorgon is immune to Lower Resistance, and Pierce Magic does not lower the target's Magic Resistance. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Pierce Shield, on the other hand, would be a good idea. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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