us american agression

[lord_gabriel]

its is funny, how everyone was instantly believing bin laden was the evil one here. In fact the first person who is made responsible for most antiamerican acts of terrorism is bin laden - regardless if it was him, or not (e.g. oklahoma).

history shows, that the usa are ready to invade everywhere if they see a need - wether there is a legal reason or not (e.g. Grenada). sometimes they make up a reason to make is seem legal to the rest of the world (e.g. Panama).

I personly tend to the view, that the usa were searching for a reason to invade afghanistan for quiete some time and have now found something, wether it is justified or not. It is, however, depressing to see how all the other countries are joining an action which is not different from the attack on poland by the nazis which started WW2.

One should think about the war. the reasons. and about the usa - the worlds only really powerful agressor. i am ashamed, that Germany is still in the NATO.

PS : America strikes BACK ?! Absolutely Ridiculous. America ATTACKED. It doesnt strike back - it did start the WAR.

[Ronn_Bman]

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Originally posted by lord_gabriel:
its is funny, how everyone was instantly believing bin laden was the evil one here. In fact the first person who is made responsible for most antiamerican acts of terrorism is bin laden - regardless if it was him, or not (e.g. oklahoma).

history shows, that the usa are ready to invade everywhere if they see a need - wether there is a legal reason or not (e.g. Grenada). sometimes they make up a reason to make is seem legal to the rest of the world (e.g. Panama).

I personly tend to the view, that the usa were searching for a reason to invade afghanistan for quiete some time and have now found something, wether it is justified or not. It is, however, depressing to see how all the other countries are joining an action which is not different from the attack on poland by the nazis which started WW2.

One should think about the war. the reasons. and about the usa - the worlds only really powerful agressor. i am ashamed, that Germany is still in the NATO.

PS : America strikes BACK ?! Absolutely Ridiculous. America ATTACKED. It doesnt strike back - it did start the WAR.

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America Strikes back....AGAINST THE TERRORIST ATTACKS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH! Does that date ring a bell?

Osama was never blamed for Oklahoma. Due to that date of the attack, the US government immediately considered domestic terrorists as well as international terrorist. Terrorism was suspected by the public at first, but authorities quickly discovered and released that it was a home grown terrorist. Timothy McVeigh, an American, along with other Americans were arrested, tried, convicted, and punished for their roles.

Evidence directly linked Osama Bin Laden to the 93 bombing of the WTC (the man convicted, an associate of Bin Laden, was due to be sentanced in the federal courthouse across the street from the WTC on September 11th...), the embassy bombings in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. Osama has admitted to the September attacks being "greater in magnitude than anticipated".

Almost all the nations in the world have admitted the evidence against him is enough to justify the current actions. Your country has committed ground troops for the first time since 1945 as a part of the world wide effort. If America was only looking for a reason to attack Afghanistan, we've had it since Osama moved in. We didn't have to wait for September 11th. We weren't just waiting for an "opportunity", we are responding to the most devastating terrorist attack in history and in defense against future terrorist actions promised by Bin Laden, Al Queta, and the Taliban.

The US actions in Afghanistan are as far removed from the Nazi invasion of Poland and Germany's subsequent policy of genocide as night is different from day. Killing terrorists and ending their ability to create terror on the innocents of the world is quite a bit different from gassing millions of innocent Jewish men, women, and children.

The US wasn't thought to be such an "aggressor" as little as 15 years ago when it provided your nation protection against the threat of the Soviets. People love to downplay the fear of the Soviets now that they're gone, but that's kind of like standing up to a bully after someone else runs him off, isn't it?

Have we gone downhill that much since then, or do you just feel you don't need us anymore? Funny that when you needed US we weren't all that bad. Maybe you'd have been better off under the Russians? Maybe you should think about that and the 5,000 dead from September 11th while you're thinking about "the war, it's reasons, and the US."

[Ryanamur]

The US did what it did in the past to protect it's interest. Ironically enough, about 90% of the time, the interests of the USA happened to be shared by most Westernized countries. To solely blame America for this mess is hypocratical. After all, it all started during the colonial era (and it could be argued that it started as far back as the crusades).

I'm saddened about the attacks of 9-11. Though I can understand why Muslim terrorists have an hatred towards the USA, I'm distressed to see that they are really the only ones who are targetted when really, they (the terrorists) hate Western Civilization.

To that extent, I'm grateful that my American neighbours sacrificed themselves over the years to make this Earth what it is today... and it's pretty compared to the alternate world we'd be living in if the USA had fallen back into isolationism after WWII.

You're from Germany, you tell me, which is better: the world we live in today or a world dominated by the USSR?

[Cloudbringer]

Ronn, methinks though art spitting into the wind, as it were...

CB

[Sojourner]

Since we're flinging mud here, let's share the wealth. I would like to point out that the mess that the U.S. inherited (and is blamed for) in the mid East was one created by European colonialism and politics. Want to to know how the Palestinian mess got started? Go check out the U.N. records. You'll be surprised at how far back it actually goes. And while we're slamming the U.S. for getting involved, let me remind you that the U.S. also gets slammed for not getting involved. We had a hands-off policy after the Soviets left Afghanistan, and we're being accused of abandoning them. Sorry, you can't have it both ways, dudes, either you want our involvement, or you don't. Enough already.