Self Defense: Boxing or Savate

Sir Degrader · 12-11-2005, 01:28 PM

Heya, this is directed to all those who take Martial arts. I'm looking into taking self defence classes, but not sure if I should go for either boxing, or savate. Note that I'm trying to learn what would be most useful in an actual fight, not to get in shape or learn a sport.

Madman · 12-11-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Degrader:
Heya, this is directed to all those who take Martial arts. I'm looking into taking self defence classes, but not sure if I should go for either boxing, or savate. Note that I'm trying to learn what would be most useful in an actual fight, not to get in shape or learn a sport.

definately boxing, its is by far the most effective way to fight

Melcheor · 12-11-2005, 03:46 PM

What is savate? I do Tai Chi and dispite the popular image of bizarre and slow moving practices in the park early in the morning, it is suprisingly relevant to self defence. I go to a group which focuses a lot on fitness and applications (the self defence bit) though, not all groups are the same. Many martial arts focus too much on attack, which is useless for self defence as you'll either get your ass kicked or you'll get prosecuted/sued. Tai Chi is mainly about defense and therefore qiute useful IMHO.

[ 12-11-2005, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Melcheor ]

Balintherlas · 12-11-2005, 06:01 PM

Savate is supposed to be what they teach to the elite military units and such, but i dont think that really matters because if u get hit with a fist once in the nose or chin your going to be dazed.

bjorn · 12-11-2005, 06:25 PM

I've been hearing good things about krav maga (do not know how to spell that.)

Sir Degrader · 12-11-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by Balintherlas:
[QB] Savate is supposed to be what they teach to the elite military units and such, /QB]

I'm pretty sure your thinking of something else. Krav Maga and Muay Thai are taught to the military, as is TKD. Savate to my knowledge is not.

Madman · 12-11-2005, 06:37 PM

still tho you box well your gonna take out any of these other cowboy martial arts

Winter Wolf · 12-11-2005, 06:41 PM

Unless you have intentions of trying to kick someone, I'd just as soon go with boxing. If those were your only choices that is. Otherwise Melcheor has a good point about Taiji quan. But make darn sure to ask if they do health Taiji quan or traditional Taiji quan. (Taiji= Tai Chi, btw.) The health stuff is mostly useless in a fight, because while the movements are the same, you need someone with practical application knowledge to show you *how* to use it *effectively*.

Kazilan · 12-11-2005, 07:01 PM

Try both and take whichever you prefer. You're better off training in something you enjoy, you're much more likely to stick with it long enough to make a difference. No martial art can fully prepare you for a real fight, but if you train in one long enough it will make a difference.

krunchyfrogg · 12-12-2005, 02:27 AM

I'd suggest Savate.

Boxing is effective, and you'll be able to kick anybody who isn't a trained fighters butt (this is true for any MA, IMHO). The problem with boxing is that you're trained to hold your fists in front of your face when on the defensive. Whicle this is great when actually boxing (and wearing gloves), it leaves you very vulnerable if you are street fighting. Any trained fighter will see that your fists are too close to your face. As Balintherlas says, if you get hit in the nose you'll be dazed. Without gloves on, your own hands can do just about as much damage as your opponents, and somebody would just hit your
"blocking" fists into your own face.

12-11-2005, 06:01 PM	#4
Balintherlas Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 22, 2003 Location: Ohio, Go Tribe Age: 39 Posts: 1,131	Savate is supposed to be what they teach to the elite military units and such, but i dont think that really matters because if u get hit with a fist once in the nose or chin your going to be dazed. __________________ Veni, Vidi, Vici

12-11-2005, 06:25 PM	#5
bjorn Zhentarim Guard Join Date: December 19, 2003 Location: sweden Age: 39 Posts: 381	I've been hearing good things about krav maga (do not know how to spell that.) __________________ [url]\"http://www.universalpoplab.com\" target=\"_blank\">Universal Poplab</a>

12-11-2005, 06:37 PM	#7
Madman The Magister Join Date: November 14, 2005 Location: Edinburgh Age: 40 Posts: 146	still tho you box well your gonna take out any of these other cowboy martial arts __________________ [img]\"http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:K4M9sAES1jgJ:www.fortunecity.co.uk/southbank\" alt=\" - \" /><br />-talking to you is like clapping with one hand-

12-11-2005, 06:41 PM	#8
Winter Wolf Manshoon Join Date: November 4, 2004 Location: Shanghai, China Posts: 226	Unless you have intentions of trying to kick someone, I'd just as soon go with boxing. If those were your only choices that is. Otherwise Melcheor has a good point about Taiji quan. But make darn sure to ask if they do health Taiji quan or traditional Taiji quan. (Taiji= Tai Chi, btw.) The health stuff is mostly useless in a fight, because while the movements are the same, you need someone with practical application knowledge to show you how to use it effectively. __________________ Calling a person a dog is just about the worst insult I can think of. Dogs deserve better than that.

12-11-2005, 07:01 PM	#9
Kazilan Elminster Join Date: October 31, 2003 Location: USA Age: 43 Posts: 485	Try both and take whichever you prefer. You're better off training in something you enjoy, you're much more likely to stick with it long enough to make a difference. No martial art can fully prepare you for a real fight, but if you train in one long enough it will make a difference. __________________ Welcome to the Federation Starship SS Buttcrack! - John Crichton

12-11-2005, 01:28 PM	#1
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 64 Posts: 2,871	Heya, this is directed to all those who take Martial arts. I'm looking into taking self defence classes, but not sure if I should go for either boxing, or savate. Note that I'm trying to learn what would be most useful in an actual fight, not to get in shape or learn a sport.

12-11-2005, 03:46 PM	#3
Melcheor Manshoon Join Date: August 17, 2005 Location: North Yorkshire, Merry old England Age: 38 Posts: 227	What is savate? I do Tai Chi and dispite the popular image of bizarre and slow moving practices in the park early in the morning, it is suprisingly relevant to self defence. I go to a group which focuses a lot on fitness and applications (the self defence bit) though, not all groups are the same. Many martial arts focus too much on attack, which is useless for self defence as you'll either get your ass kicked or you'll get prosecuted/sued. Tai Chi is mainly about defense and therefore qiute useful IMHO. [ 12-11-2005, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Melcheor ]

12-12-2005, 02:27 AM	#10
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 49 Posts: 1,516	I'd suggest Savate. Boxing is effective, and you'll be able to kick anybody who isn't a trained fighters butt (this is true for any MA, IMHO). The problem with boxing is that you're trained to hold your fists in front of your face when on the defensive. Whicle this is great when actually boxing (and wearing gloves), it leaves you very vulnerable if you are street fighting. Any trained fighter will see that your fists are too close to your face. As Balintherlas says, if you get hit in the nose you'll be dazed. Without gloves on, your own hands can do just about as much damage as your opponents, and somebody would just hit your "blocking" fists into your own face. __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

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