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Old 07-11-2001, 07:00 PM   #1
Ramon de Ramon y Ramon
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Possible spoilers, especiallly about alternative paths to take in quests, in BG I and BG II !

After not having played for three months I've decided to create a new pc and take him all the way from BG I over TotSC, DSotSC and SoA to ToB.

So far I have always played heroic pc/parties and for me that will always be my "natural" choice, but nevertheless this time I am seriously considering playing an evil pc as I've heard that it is a great challenge and makes for an entirely different game. But I have still serious doubts if that can be true and if the general layout of the allows for a gaming experience as rewarding with an evil pc as with a good pc:

- isn't the general plotline too much set up as the clasical confrontation between good (you) and evil ( Sarevok, Irenicus, whatever foes, I suppose various other Bhaal spawns, you face in ToB)

- and isn't too much of the main suspense coming from your personal battle against your evil heritage, against giving in to the lure of the call of your blood ?

- why should I fight Sarevok if I am as evil as he is and not simply join forces with him ? (Okay, I could of course strive to have ALL the power for myself).

- are there enough viable plot options, both in the side quests and the main plotline for evil-doers to make the gaming experience really entirely different ?

- does the advantage of being able to steal whatever you can get away with really offset the disadvantage of having to pay twice as much when you pay due to your bad reputation ? And how dangerous and calculable is relying on habitual stealing ? I gonna strive for divinity - spending most of my time running away from town guards doesn't fit too well into that plan !

If I choose the evil path I'll probably play it along the lines of Sarevok: a superintelligent schemer/plotter/intrigant who knows only too well that his evil
deeds and goals are most efficiently and easily accomplished by keeping the disguise of being a respectable and even benevolent citizen as long as and whenever possible. That would of course enable me to choose the "good path" in many side quests. But still the key question from above remains: are there enough interesting and viable "evil" options in the main plotline to provide for a rewarding new gaming experience ? Without spoiling me too much could you please explain from your experiences with playing an evil party how you played at critical points of the plot and why you chose the options you did from a roleplaying point of view. (example: with a evil party in BG II what did you do with the Silver dragon quest ? Did you kill her after returning the eggs or did you just betray her already before that or did you just choose the good path at that point because it seemed to be the safest way back out of the Underdark ? )

Also, what would be a good alignment for a pc as I described him above ? Surely not chaotic evil, rather lawful evil or neutral evil ?

Thanks in advance for your inputs !


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Old 07-11-2001, 09:22 PM   #2
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I enjoy playing with an evil party, as you don't have to worry about anything (besides those guards chasing you down) and you can do whatever you want. Just because your evil, doesn't mean other evil beings won't attack you. Evil aligned characters are known to attack or betray each other when something more valuable/challenging/whatever comes up. In BG1, see it like this, Saverok wants to kill you to gain the power of Bhaal, whereas you want the power to yourself. So what do you do? Destroy all his plans of conquering BG and kill him. In BG2, see it more like you want your revenge for all the abuse Irenicus dished out to you. You will stop at nothing to kill him, and that even means slaying things that get in your way (Silver Dragon..) Right now, I am trying to do the same, as I am making a Drow, neutral evil. Being chaotic means you kill everything without a worry, lawful means you try to abide by the law while doing your evil deeds. Neutral is the best pick, I think. Now I have a question for you, I know there is BG1 and it's expansion TotSC, and BG2 and it's expansion ToB, but what is DSotSC? I think I have heard of it before, but I'm not sure..
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Old 07-12-2001, 01:57 PM   #3
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Thanks, Nanobyte !

DSotSC = Dark Side of the Swordcoast, an unofficial expansion to BG I/TotSC.

To find out more about it: here.

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Old 07-12-2001, 03:37 PM   #4
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Notice also that an evil guy knows that he can first do things in a good way to get the rewards, then let his killer instinct come out...

When i played an evil character, i gave him something in his personality that helped me feel better and keep his reputation decent: he doesnt kill kids, and he helps them. That made him more human, and i didnt want to kill kids (even i a game)... so i did a few quests (kid-related quests like the cat in the waterfall) in a completely good way

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