User License Agreement

Cristian · 10-02-2003, 05:41 AM

Do you read those? im just wondering i never ever read one, for example when installing a game...

GokuZool · 10-02-2003, 06:06 AM

Before installing a game, I normally just skip through it. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

When I'm signing up for a forum however, I often read it. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 10-02-2003, 06:09 AM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

dplax · 10-02-2003, 06:52 AM

I never read one, neither have I ever printed it.

WillowIX · 10-02-2003, 07:33 AM

Well most software I purchase have pretty much the same license agreement. I susally read through Microsoft's agreements since I don't trust that company.

However I do read through all agreements when I'm signing up or registering for a service.

cloud ff7 38 · 10-02-2003, 09:37 AM

i skim over them for forums and i just skip it for games.

[ 10-02-2003, 09:38 AM: Message edited by: cloud ff7 38 ]

Timber Loftis · 10-02-2003, 09:46 AM

You'd be surprised what's in there. For ToEE, the EULA gives the owner the right to make one copy of the program for backup purposes. However, SecuRom (cd ROM authentication software) prevents either copying the CDs, or using the copied CDs to play the game. To make matters worse, it is their current policy not to replace damaged discs more than 90 days after sale. Is this a breach of the license rights given in the EULA? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] If so, is it material and what are the damages?

On Atari Forums I argued it was a breach. Atari didn't like that, and closed the thread and called me a troll (AFTER I'd gotten rid of a troll, mind you). Oh well, sticks and stones.

Anywho, there are interesting issues in EULA's. I will tell you that on the commercial/industrial side I once saw a box manufacturer get sued for hundreds of thousands for making a copy of software it commissioned to run its operations. The company took a copy of the software to a second facility in a second state. Same software -- 2nd install. Got sued for nearly half a million.

[ 10-02-2003, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

Zero Alpha · 10-02-2003, 11:14 AM

i mostly read them if i think a program is likely to have spyware. if it does it will have something like 'we reserve the right to collect information about the user for advertising purposes as agreed under our privacy policy' at the bottom.

Zuvio · 10-02-2003, 12:19 PM

User License Agreement?!

Never heard of that game ...

Kakero · 10-02-2003, 06:00 PM

Never read them before, reading those long english sentence makes my head hurt.

Larry_OHF · 10-02-2003, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cloud ff7 38:
i skim over them for forums...

We know. It shows.

Listen, take that signature down and put up something more decent, or you will lose your ability to have a signature. Please.

10-02-2003, 05:41 AM	#1
Cristian Emerald Dragon Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 35 Posts: 992	Do you read those? im just wondering i never ever read one, for example when installing a game... __________________ Reeka once told me:<br />\"Bloom Where You Are Planted\"

10-02-2003, 06:52 AM	#3
dplax Jack Burton Join Date: July 19, 2003 Location: an expat living in France Age: 38 Posts: 5,577	I never read one, neither have I ever printed it. __________________

10-02-2003, 07:33 AM	#4
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	Well most software I purchase have pretty much the same license agreement. I susally read through Microsoft's agreements since I don't trust that company. However I do read through all agreements when I'm signing up or registering for a service. __________________ Confuzzled by nature.

10-02-2003, 09:46 AM	#6
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	You'd be surprised what's in there. For ToEE, the EULA gives the owner the right to make one copy of the program for backup purposes. However, SecuRom (cd ROM authentication software) prevents either copying the CDs, or using the copied CDs to play the game. To make matters worse, it is their current policy not to replace damaged discs more than 90 days after sale. Is this a breach of the license rights given in the EULA? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] If so, is it material and what are the damages? On Atari Forums I argued it was a breach. Atari didn't like that, and closed the thread and called me a troll (AFTER I'd gotten rid of a troll, mind you). Oh well, sticks and stones. Anywho, there are interesting issues in EULA's. I will tell you that on the commercial/industrial side I once saw a box manufacturer get sued for hundreds of thousands for making a copy of software it commissioned to run its operations. The company took a copy of the software to a second facility in a second state. Same software -- 2nd install. Got sued for nearly half a million. [ 10-02-2003, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ] __________________

10-02-2003, 11:14 AM	#7
Zero Alpha Avatar Join Date: July 15, 2002 Location: London, England Age: 39 Posts: 506	i mostly read them if i think a program is likely to have spyware. if it does it will have something like 'we reserve the right to collect information about the user for advertising purposes as agreed under our privacy policy' at the bottom. __________________ \"RTFM\"<br />\"No i will NOT fix your computer\"<br />\"All\'s fair in sibling war\"

10-02-2003, 06:06 AM	#2
GokuZool Lord Ao Join Date: September 11, 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,061	Before installing a game, I normally just skip through it. [img]tongue.gif[/img] When I'm signing up for a forum however, I often read it. [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 10-02-2003, 06:09 AM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

10-02-2003, 09:37 AM	#5
cloud ff7 38 User suspended until [Nov26] Join Date: August 7, 2003 Location: Midgar Age: 35 Posts: 533	i skim over them for forums and i just skip it for games. [ 10-02-2003, 09:38 AM: Message edited by: cloud ff7 38 ]

10-02-2003, 12:19 PM	#8
Zuvio Gold Dragon Join Date: May 19, 2002 Location: Blessed are those who are not.... Age: 42 Posts: 2,556	User License Agreement?! Never heard of that game ... __________________ [img]\"http://img121.exs.cx/img121/4236/zuviodemonnoname2hf.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-02-2003, 06:00 PM	#9
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	Never read them before, reading those long english sentence makes my head hurt.

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