X-Men question

Xen · 07-23-2003, 11:36 AM

Can anybody tell me what is the link between Wolwerine and Sabertooth?
From watching the cartoon it has something to do with Wolwerine`s past wich is little know about it(at least for me)...
So if anyone can explain. Please do.
Thanks in advance!

AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe · 07-23-2003, 12:15 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but, I think its something about both being the in Weapon X program or something and they are both originally from canada.

Xen · 07-23-2003, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe:
Correct me if I am wrong but, I think its something about both being the in Weapon X program or something and they are both originally from canada.

Yes you are correct about being weapon X.

FelixJaeger · 07-23-2003, 01:39 PM

Beats me, I always wanted to know but I never thought to ask... [img]graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Can't wait to find out the answer though 'cause someone on heres bound to know.

Bruce The Aussie · 07-23-2003, 05:53 PM

wolverine and sebertooth where both army buddies. both where mutants and both got involved in a project to have adamantium grafted to there skeleton. they did it to wolverine by force, not by choice, so he trashed the lab and killed the doctors that where doing the experiment. sabertooth hated wolverine for this as he wanted the superstrong skeleton. theres also some other plots mingled into this but thats for another day children.....now run along its way past your bedtime...

Xen · 07-24-2003, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce The Aussie:
wolverine and sebertooth where both army buddies. both where mutants and both got involved in a project to have adamantium grafted to there skeleton. they did it to wolverine by force, not by choice, so he trashed the lab and killed the doctors that where doing the experiment. sabertooth hated wolverine for this as he wanted the superstrong skeleton. theres also some other plots mingled into this but thats for another day children.....now run along its way past your bedtime...

Thanks Bruce!

Finn · 07-25-2003, 05:53 AM

There have been hints that Wolvie and Sabie could be related. Possibly father and son....But hey, they could just blame it on the memory implants.

Xen · 07-25-2003, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Finn:
There have been hints that Wolvie and Sabie could be related. Possibly father and son....But hey, they could just blame it on the memory implants.

Hmm? Father and son?

. Weird...

9_1_6 · 07-25-2003, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by Finn:
There have been hints that Wolvie and Sabie could be related. Possibly father and son....But hey, they could just blame it on the memory implants.

Wow! That would be very interesting. Gotta look into that.

Arnabas · 07-25-2003, 09:11 AM

Some of this is no longer valid, due to Barry Windsor-Smith (I'll get to that in a sec), but I still stick to this version of things:
For over 15 years, Chris Claremont wrote X-Men. He is responsible for the success it has today. He took a book that wasn't doing very well and made it Marvel's #1 book. He is the one behind the Phoenix saga, the Days of Futures Past story and many other classic moments.
Chris made Wolverine the most popular Marvel character and was revealing his past bit by bit. He had his whole history and background, but wanted to reveal it slowly. This drove fans nuts, but also kept them hooked. Many years ago, Marvel put out a book called Marvel Comics Presents, which ran weekly (as I recall) and had 2 or three short stories in each issue, with a continuing story as the main seller of the title.
An artist named Barry Windsor-Smith decided he wanted to try writing and presented his ideas for a story involving Wolverine. This became the whole Weapon X storyline. He decided that he would be the one to reveal Wolverine's past. He admitted in an interview (paraphrased): "I don't care about continuity. This is my story and I will write what I want."
Chris Claremont was naturally upset that a character he had been developing for 15 years now had this new origin that did not relate to anything he (Claremont) had been planning. He complained about it and the X-Men group editor said basically "The story was popular and sold well. This is how it is. Change your plans, or if you don't like it, quit."
He quit, ending his almost two-decade run on X-Men...
Now, back to the question. Chris said a few years later that his plan had been to eventually reveal that Sabretooth was Wolverine's father. Wolvie had fought him many times, sometimes winning, sometimes losing. Sabretooth seemed pretty inconsistant in strength. Chris said that this was because every time Sabretooth was seen, it was actually a clone of the original, made by Mr. Sinister. The real Sabretooth only appeared in Wolvie's life once a year, on his birthday. There was a story which revealed that every year on his birthday, Wolverine was attacked by a mysterious, unknown assailant, who would always beat the crap out of him. Wolvie didn't know who it was and was never able to beat him. This was the real Sabretooth, coming to show his kid that *he* is the best there is at what he does, and what he does isn't very nice...
I still support this storyline-- even though Marvel seems to have abandoned it-- because I support Chris Claremont and am still irritated by the way he was treated after all he did for them.

07-23-2003, 12:15 PM	#2
AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe Hathor Join Date: October 11, 2001 Location: At My Computer Age: 44 Posts: 2,217	Correct me if I am wrong but, I think its something about both being the in Weapon X program or something and they are both originally from canada. __________________ Now the swinging bridge<br />Is quieted with creepers. . . <br />Like our tendrilled life. -Basho

07-25-2003, 05:53 AM	#7
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07-25-2003, 09:11 AM	#10
Arnabas Baaz Draconian Join Date: October 11, 2001 Location: Montreal,Quebec,Canada Age: 54 Posts: 721	Some of this is no longer valid, due to Barry Windsor-Smith (I'll get to that in a sec), but I still stick to this version of things: For over 15 years, Chris Claremont wrote X-Men. He is responsible for the success it has today. He took a book that wasn't doing very well and made it Marvel's #1 book. He is the one behind the Phoenix saga, the Days of Futures Past story and many other classic moments. Chris made Wolverine the most popular Marvel character and was revealing his past bit by bit. He had his whole history and background, but wanted to reveal it slowly. This drove fans nuts, but also kept them hooked. Many years ago, Marvel put out a book called Marvel Comics Presents, which ran weekly (as I recall) and had 2 or three short stories in each issue, with a continuing story as the main seller of the title. An artist named Barry Windsor-Smith decided he wanted to try writing and presented his ideas for a story involving Wolverine. This became the whole Weapon X storyline. He decided that he would be the one to reveal Wolverine's past. He admitted in an interview (paraphrased): "I don't care about continuity. This is my story and I will write what I want." Chris Claremont was naturally upset that a character he had been developing for 15 years now had this new origin that did not relate to anything he (Claremont) had been planning. He complained about it and the X-Men group editor said basically "The story was popular and sold well. This is how it is. Change your plans, or if you don't like it, quit." He quit, ending his almost two-decade run on X-Men... Now, back to the question. Chris said a few years later that his plan had been to eventually reveal that Sabretooth was Wolverine's father. Wolvie had fought him many times, sometimes winning, sometimes losing. Sabretooth seemed pretty inconsistant in strength. Chris said that this was because every time Sabretooth was seen, it was actually a clone of the original, made by Mr. Sinister. The real Sabretooth only appeared in Wolvie's life once a year, on his birthday. There was a story which revealed that every year on his birthday, Wolverine was attacked by a mysterious, unknown assailant, who would always beat the crap out of him. Wolvie didn't know who it was and was never able to beat him. This was the real Sabretooth, coming to show his kid that he is the best there is at what he does, and what he does isn't very nice... I still support this storyline-- even though Marvel seems to have abandoned it-- because I support Chris Claremont and am still irritated by the way he was treated after all he did for them. __________________ Est Sularis oth Mithas

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07-23-2003, 11:36 AM	#1
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Can anybody tell me what is the link between Wolwerine and Sabertooth? From watching the cartoon it has something to do with Wolwerine`s past wich is little know about it(at least for me)... So if anyone can explain. Please do. Thanks in advance!

07-23-2003, 01:39 PM	#4
FelixJaeger Symbol of Cyric Join Date: May 26, 2002 Location: The Cloudy Town Of Hellview Age: 37 Posts: 1,202	Beats me, I always wanted to know but I never thought to ask... [img]graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Can't wait to find out the answer though 'cause someone on heres bound to know.

07-23-2003, 05:53 PM	#5
Bruce The Aussie Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: March 2, 2001 Location: Chaotica (london,england) Age: 38 Posts: 1,798	wolverine and sebertooth where both army buddies. both where mutants and both got involved in a project to have adamantium grafted to there skeleton. they did it to wolverine by force, not by choice, so he trashed the lab and killed the doctors that where doing the experiment. sabertooth hated wolverine for this as he wanted the superstrong skeleton. theres also some other plots mingled into this but thats for another day children.....now run along its way past your bedtime...

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