Its all NORSE to me!!

Obsidian the Black · 07-04-2002, 04:05 PM

If you havent noticed (which you probably have) there sre many norse legends in BG2, for instance, the god TYR is the norse god of justice, Illmater is the norse god of suffering, Drow are norse, the nine hells or nine worlds are norse, Aegis-fang derived from Mjollnir, Thors hammer. There is a norse god called Balder, also much if not most of icewind dale is norse, There is much more as well!

Willard · 07-04-2002, 04:37 PM

Whoa, I didn't know that Obsidian! I guess one of the creators of those games was Norwegian......

Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs · 07-04-2002, 04:46 PM

apparently the Forgotten Realms people were Norwegian. it's not just BG2, but the entire AD&D setting.

Sazerac · 07-04-2002, 05:14 PM

If I remember right, Tethyr is the name of a Nordic province or municipality; I forget which, but I do remember that name being a real place. Also, "King Strom", the buried king in Windspear Hills that was an ancient king of Tethyr..."Strom" means "current" in German; both water current and electrical current (thus, Angstrom). [img]smile.gif[/img]

-Sazerac

[ 07-04-2002, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: Sazerac ]

Xero279 · 07-04-2002, 06:03 PM

maybe they just liked norse mythology

Maxamus · 07-04-2002, 09:04 PM

I think they got Baulder from an old fantasy book

It was about this gnome named Baldur, who fished the seas north of Annen

Balurs Gate Baldur sailed the seas north of Amn, very simmillair, and he was a dwarf, not a gnome

Melusine · 07-05-2002, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs:
apparently the Forgotten Realms people were Norwegian. it's not just BG2, but the entire AD&D setting.

No, the people who created AD&D, Forgotten Realms etc. just didn't have a very good imagination

A lot of the place names and gods are simply derived from existing mythologies (Mielikki for example is a Finnish goddess), like the ones Obsidian mentioned.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the same is true of the creators of the BG series: lots of references to be found...
Anyone notice the whole thing with selling souls, Marlowe and VonGoethe in TOB... too corny!

[ 07-05-2002, 06:24 AM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

Memnoch · 07-05-2002, 07:15 AM

Like Mel said, it's a bit o' this, a bit o' that.

Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs · 07-05-2002, 01:40 PM

thinking up new names is hard. it's much easier to find an existing name from some obscure old mythology than it is to make up a new name that sounds good. If you use too many names like "dave" "tom" and "mike" it seems really uninventive. good "fantasy-sounding" names are hard to come by. ancient texts have much cooler names.

Ctenas · 07-05-2002, 04:16 PM

If you care to see Ad&d books of monsters, you will see, that almost nothing is original. Most monster and even itens, stories and cosmovision of AD&D is based in something else. No mentioned before, trolls are of nordic tradition and elves are saxonic. I guess nordic mithology is just another good source, because it´s soo rich and can be easily researched.

07-04-2002, 04:05 PM	#1
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Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs Elminster Join Date: March 23, 2002 Location: Lynchburg, Virginia Age: 40 Posts: 460	apparently the Forgotten Realms people were Norwegian. it's not just BG2, but the entire AD&D setting. __________________ Yar!

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Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	If I remember right, Tethyr is the name of a Nordic province or municipality; I forget which, but I do remember that name being a real place. Also, "King Strom", the buried king in Windspear Hills that was an ancient king of Tethyr..."Strom" means "current" in German; both water current and electrical current (thus, Angstrom). [img]smile.gif[/img] -Sazerac [ 07-04-2002, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: Sazerac ] __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

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Maxamus Manshoon Join Date: June 14, 2002 Location: Someplace Posts: 181	I think they got Baulder from an old fantasy book It was about this gnome named Baldur, who fished the seas north of Annen Balurs Gate Baldur sailed the seas north of Amn, very simmillair, and he was a dwarf, not a gnome __________________ I cry, when angels deserve to di-ii-eee<br /><br />Stupid people to stupid things, smart people outsmart each other

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Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	Like Mel said, it's a bit o' this, a bit o' that. __________________

07-05-2002, 01:40 PM	#9
Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs Elminster Join Date: March 23, 2002 Location: Lynchburg, Virginia Age: 40 Posts: 460	thinking up new names is hard. it's much easier to find an existing name from some obscure old mythology than it is to make up a new name that sounds good. If you use too many names like "dave" "tom" and "mike" it seems really uninventive. good "fantasy-sounding" names are hard to come by. ancient texts have much cooler names. __________________ Yar!

07-05-2002, 04:16 PM	#10
Ctenas Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 4, 2002 Location: São Paulo - Brazil Age: 45 Posts: 43	If you care to see Ad&d books of monsters, you will see, that almost nothing is original. Most monster and even itens, stories and cosmovision of AD&D is based in something else. No mentioned before, trolls are of nordic tradition and elves are saxonic. I guess nordic mithology is just another good source, because it´s soo rich and can be easily researched.

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