Ironmaiden Found

Reeka · 04-21-2003, 08:08 PM

As usual I was listening to this while doind other things, but I believe I have this right. One of Hussein's son was "in charge" of the national soccer team and they found an Ironmaiden there. It is believed he used it to torture the soccer players. (If I do not have my facts straight here, please correct me.) I guess this was incentive for them to play their best?

Iron_Ranger · 04-21-2003, 11:08 PM

Well thats one way to get your players motivated... Its not really surprising though. I wont be surprised by anything they find in Iraq...

BTW- Hi Karal. I havent talked to you in a while. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 04-21-2003, 11:12 PM: Message edited by: Iron_Ranger ]

Cerek the Barbaric · 04-21-2003, 11:28 PM

I think that particular claim is exaggerated, Reeka. However, torture WAS Uda(?) Hussein's main motivational tool for Iraqi athletes.

According to an article from Sport's Illustrated a couple of weeks ago, the soccor players had the soles of their feet beaten regularly after any important loss. They were also tied to the back of vehicles and drug down the street, stripping the skin from their backs. Next, they were forced to climb a ladder (on thier swollen feet) and jump into a pit of raw sewage (the intent was for their numerous wounds to become infected). All of this was meant to "motivate" them not to lose anymore.

The article listed other forms of torture that were used. Apparantly, Uda felt the best way to motivate athletes was to "take away" whatever physical gifts or advantages they had. He reportedly the members of the Iraqi basketball team confined to a cell that was only 5' high. This meant most of the players had to "stoop over" when they stood up. And they had to take turns standing up because the cell was too small for all of them to lie down at the same time.

So Uda damaged the feet of soccor players (whose primary athletic skill is running) and he confined tall athletes to sub-sized cells so they could see what it was like to feel small. He also personally beat an Iraqi boxer who lost an important international match. The athlete was brought into Uda's office and tied to a chair. Uda then gave the athlete a private "boxing lesson", beating him in the face. After several blows, he turned to the guards and said something like "Take him downstairs and finish it". The boxer was not heard from again.

So there may or may not have been an Iron Maiden (the article didn't mention one), but Uda certainly seemed to manage without one quite well.

04-22-2003, 09:24 AM

ROTFL!!! I was thinking that they had found more evidence of SH's decadence and that he had a collection of Rock Music [img]smile.gif[/img] oh wow...now my sides hurt from laughing so hard....whew!

johnny · 04-22-2003, 09:37 AM

Not too long ago, they played 0-0 against some team they should have beaten easily, at least that's what Uday thought. So he had the whole squad whipped. Sometimes i think it wouldn't be too bad if our national footballteam had a coach like that. Maybe they'd work a little harder.

Donut · 04-22-2003, 09:50 AM

http://www.time.com/time/europe/maga...444952,00.html

Larry_OHF · 04-22-2003, 12:00 PM

So...what does an Ironmaiden do? I see that it is a small compartment that has long nails pointing inward...but the picture looks like the interior of the thing is wide enough to not get stuck on one if a man was standing still. Does the person have to stay in there so long that he cannot stand for being tired and sleepy...thus getting stuck on the nails?

Rimjaw · 04-22-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Larry_OHF:
So...what does an Ironmaiden do? I see that it is a small compartment that has long nails pointing inward...but the picture looks like the interior of the thing is wide enough to not get stuck on one if a man was standing still. Does the person have to stay in there so long that he cannot stand for being tired and sleepy...thus getting stuck on the nails?

Yup, the purpose is to make you stay in an uncomfortable position for long periods of time.

Donut · 04-22-2003, 12:10 PM

http://www.houseofdesade.org/torture/maiden.htm

04-22-2003, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
http://www.houseofdesade.org/torture/maiden.htm

[img]smile.gif[/img] frightening that you had this link ready to hand

Just kidding.

04-21-2003, 08:08 PM	#1
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04-21-2003, 11:08 PM	#2
Iron_Ranger Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 18, 2002 Location: Where Eagles Dare Age: 37 Posts: 1,391	Well thats one way to get your players motivated... Its not really surprising though. I wont be surprised by anything they find in Iraq... BTW- Hi Karal. I havent talked to you in a while. [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 04-21-2003, 11:12 PM: Message edited by: Iron_Ranger ] __________________ <br />[url]\"http://www.bratgirlcentral.com/cgi-bin/ouapforum/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi\" target=\"_blank\">Once Upon A Paper</a><br />Living on a razors edge<br />Balancing on ledge<br />Living on a razors edge

04-21-2003, 11:28 PM	#3
Cerek the Barbaric Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: North Carolina Age: 62 Posts: 3,257	I think that particular claim is exaggerated, Reeka. However, torture WAS Uda(?) Hussein's main motivational tool for Iraqi athletes. According to an article from Sport's Illustrated a couple of weeks ago, the soccor players had the soles of their feet beaten regularly after any important loss. They were also tied to the back of vehicles and drug down the street, stripping the skin from their backs. Next, they were forced to climb a ladder (on thier swollen feet) and jump into a pit of raw sewage (the intent was for their numerous wounds to become infected). All of this was meant to "motivate" them not to lose anymore. The article listed other forms of torture that were used. Apparantly, Uda felt the best way to motivate athletes was to "take away" whatever physical gifts or advantages they had. He reportedly the members of the Iraqi basketball team confined to a cell that was only 5' high. This meant most of the players had to "stoop over" when they stood up. And they had to take turns standing up because the cell was too small for all of them to lie down at the same time. So Uda damaged the feet of soccor players (whose primary athletic skill is running) and he confined tall athletes to sub-sized cells so they could see what it was like to feel small. He also personally beat an Iraqi boxer who lost an important international match. The athlete was brought into Uda's office and tied to a chair. Uda then gave the athlete a private "boxing lesson", beating him in the face. After several blows, he turned to the guards and said something like "Take him downstairs and finish it". The boxer was not heard from again. So there may or may not have been an Iron Maiden (the article didn't mention one), but Uda certainly seemed to manage without one quite well. __________________ [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/cerek/cerektsrsig.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Cerek the Calmth

04-22-2003, 09:37 AM	#5
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 59 Posts: 16,981	Not too long ago, they played 0-0 against some team they should have beaten easily, at least that's what Uday thought. So he had the whole squad whipped. Sometimes i think it wouldn't be too bad if our national footballteam had a coach like that. Maybe they'd work a little harder. __________________

04-22-2003, 09:50 AM	#6
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04-22-2003, 09:24 AM	#4
MagiK Guest Posts: n/a	ROTFL!!! I was thinking that they had found more evidence of SH's decadence and that he had a collection of Rock Music [img]smile.gif[/img] oh wow...now my sides hurt from laughing so hard....whew!

04-22-2003, 12:00 PM	#7
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 49 Posts: 14,759	So...what does an Ironmaiden do? I see that it is a small compartment that has long nails pointing inward...but the picture looks like the interior of the thing is wide enough to not get stuck on one if a man was standing still. Does the person have to stay in there so long that he cannot stand for being tired and sleepy...thus getting stuck on the nails? __________________

04-22-2003, 12:10 PM	#9
Donut Jack Burton Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Airstrip One Age: 41 Posts: 5,571	http://www.houseofdesade.org/torture/maiden.htm __________________ [img]\"http://www.wheatsheaf.freeserve.co.uk/roastspurs.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> <br />Proud member of the Axis of Upheaval<br />Official Titterer of the Laughing Hyenas<br />Josiah Bartlet - the best President the US never had.<br />The 1st D in the D & D Show

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