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Old 04-06-2004, 11:43 AM   #1
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Stranger than fiction: Disraeli, Hitler and the Cold War

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Real people that some believe never existed
Ethelred the Unready King of England 978 to 1016 - 63 per cent
William Wallace 13th-century Scottish hero - 42 per cent
Benjamin Disraeli Prime minister and founder of the modern Tory party - 40 per cent
Genghis Khan, Mongol conqueror - 38 per cent
Benito Mussolini, Fascist dictator, 33 per cent
Adolf Hitler - 11 per cent
Winston Churchill - 9 per cent

Real events some people believe never took place
Battle of the Bulge 52 per cent
Battle of Little Big Horn Scene of Custer's last stand - 48 per cent
Hundred Years' War 44 per cent
Cold War - 32 per cent
Battle of Hastings, 15 per cent

Fictional characters who we believe were real
King Arthur , mythical monarch of the Round Table - 57 per cent
Robin Hood - 27 per cent
Conan the Barbarian - 5 per cent
Richard Sharpe , fictional cad and warrior - 3 per cent
Edmund Blackadder - 1 per cent
Xena Warrior Princess - 1 per cent

Fictional events that we believe did take place
War of the Worlds , Martian invasion - 6 per cent
Battle of Helms Deep , Rings Trilogy - The Two Towers - 3 per cent
Battle of Endor , The Return of the Jedi - 2 per cent
Planet of the Apes , the apes rule Earth - 1 per cent
Battlestar Galactica , the defeat of humanity by cyborgs - 1 per cent
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:46 AM   #2
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:27 PM   #3
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57 per cent believe that the Battle of the Bulge, the Nazi counter-offensive in the Ardennes in 1945, never happened.
I don't blame them, the Nazi counter-offensive in the Ardennes was in 1944. The Allied Responce (the reduction of the bulge) begain on December 29th 1944. I don't really think that someone could correctly claim that the battle of the bulge represented a Nazi counter-offensive in 1945.

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Old 04-06-2004, 01:17 PM   #4
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57 per cent believe that the Battle of the Bulge, the Nazi counter-offensive in the Ardennes in 1945, never happened.
I don't blame them, the Nazi counter-offensive in the Ardennes was in 1944. The Allied Responce (the reduction of the bulge) begain on December 29th 1944. I don't really think that someone could correctly claim that the battle of the bulge represented a Nazi counter-offensive in 1945. [/QUOTE]Leave it to Seraph to pick the nit [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img]
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Old 04-06-2004, 04:09 PM   #5
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I know people who don't believe that man landed on the moon. They think the entire thing is a conspiracy.

What about the Scorpion King? I would say fiction but the documentary on the DVD would state otherwise. Or How about the city of Troy? Was recently clamed to be a false story but there has been recent evidence to suggest the city did exist.

Some of these things they say are fiction could be true. I mean there is no evidence to support King Arthur's existence. But that does not mean that such a man could never have existed. I guess my point is we get alot of these tales from passed down stories that have possibly been slightly exaggerated and we have no way to prove them until some archeologist somewhere digs something up like in the case of Troy, or Solomens Temple. Before some people believe they would have to dig up the Trojan Horse and even than there will be a doubting thomas.

War of the Worlds is not really a fictional event, fictional in the sense we were never invaded by martians. But the radio broadcast that had people glued to there radios and made them believe was very much real. So to say the event never happened is false.


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Old 04-06-2004, 04:18 PM   #6
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Yeah, some movies/books go out of their way to try and look 'real', like the Blair Witch Project.

I do have to admit that when I read the Andromeda Strain in Junior High I thought it was a true story [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Rokenn:Leave it to Seraph to pick the nit [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img]
I get annoyed at articles that go "Look at what people don't know" and then proceed to make obvious mistakes. If I can spot the issue without actually reading the article then someone didn't do their job right. If there is any point where it's worth working really hard at checking your work it's when your saying other people are wrong.

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I do have to admit that when I read the Andromeda Strain in Junior High I thought it was a true story
I always thought it got really confusing with books like "Lab 257" which take basically made up stories, but try to present them as if they had happened. For those who haven't heard of it, Lab 257 is a germ research facility on Plum Island off the eastern tip of Long Island. The author of the book, Michael Carroll, makes all sorts of claims like that Lyme disease was releaced from the lab, and all sorts of other claims that he basis on a few stories where he "connected the dots".

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