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Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice
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NATIONAL DESK | February 17, 2004, Tuesday
Scholarship, 'Whites Only,' Roils a Campus By ELISSA GOOTMAN (NYT) 477 words Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 17 , Column 1 ABSTRACT - Jason J Mattera, junior at Roger Williams University in Rhode Island and founder of College Republicans, ruffles feathers on campus by offering $50 scholarship for whites only; puts out parody application after university compiles list of minorities-only scholarships, saying he wants to encourage debate on affirmative action (S) I'm really suprised this issue didn't show up here sooner. I saw this on the news last week and heard the resulting hooplah about it. So I'd like to know what the members here think. Is it really so wrong to have a scholarship that is designated for "Whites Only"? And if it is discrimination, then isn't it also discriminatory to have scholarships that are "African/American Only", "Hispanic Only", or any other "{insert group} Only"? Why is it considered "rascist" if a sholarship or membership is restricted to whites, but considered "progressive" when a scholarship or membership is restricted to any other racial group?
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I used to be of that school of thought, Cerek, but now I'm not so sure. I used to shun Black History month and say things like, "When's White History Month?"
But if you think about it, we have eleven White History Months every year... It sounds trite, but it's true.
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"Whites only" signs have been a serious issue in the past long enough, are they THAT itchy to bring those days back ?
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Cerek - scholarships for Hispanic or Black students are to help them overcome the difficulties of inherent discrimination in the systems. White people do not suffer inherent discrimination, far from it in fact. Thats why I think this scholarship is completely unnecessary, and also why I think the politics behind it are really quite dubious.
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although Barry some white do suffer discrimination, its a matter of where you live really.
I think it's OK but if this kinda thing starts up all over, with others thinking its a good idea then it could lead to big problems. I do think that this could be a good idea in some places, whites may work better on there own, although this I feel would encourage racism. I do think what this guy is doing is discrimination though, I would like to hear an opinion of someone black on this one.
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And anyways, I'm with Barry on this one. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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There is a college here in NC thst is primarily black, I think it is called AMT...my brother-in-law went there for a degree in engeneering, and was rewarded a minority scholorship granted to non-blacks to promote others to come to the school. I see nothing wrong with that, because he was a minority, and did suffer some discrimination in class...which is ok, because it taught him a valuable lesson on humility as well as the "walk in another's shoes" concept.
Yet I do not know if giving a sholorship to a white that is not suffering a minority clause is the same as what I just desribed nor as acceptable. There should be a justifiable reason for the grant, as I described in the case with my bro-in-law. [ 02-28-2004, 12:11 PM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]
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