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Drizzt Do'Urden
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When you have a teenager on the rampage, who are you going to turn to? In America, parents send their troubled offspring to Jamaica's Tranquility Bay - a 'behaviour-modification centre' which charges $40,000 a year to 'cure' them. Decca Aitkenhead, the first journalist to gain access to the centre in five years, wonders if there isn't too high a price to pay.
Two part artical. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magaz...987172,00.html http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magaz...987168,00.html
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Zartan
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The oxymoron of tough love to the extreme. If your are rich you can have your kids brainwashed and depersonalized. Of course the parents are all blameless.
Instead of facing their children or as they call them, problems, they send them away. Out of site, out of mind. I had to quote the parts I found most indignant to my conscience and humanity. What great qualification? a real professional and expert on human psycology. LOL What a promotion from night gaurd to administrator! Controlling people must run in this guys family. Quote:
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Fzoul Chembryl
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It sounds like English boarding school crossed with the Cultural Revolution. I really think it's great that parents are willing to spend so much money so that no matter how much pain or degradation their children suffer, the parents get what they want. Maybe the youth of America should declare war on Tranquility Bay. That way the Red Cross could impose the Geneva Convention rules there. Better yet, Armed Forces recruiters could be stationed ouside the camp. The kids have already undergone torture and indoctrination techniques. Think about the savings for the governemnt.
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Crossed with a cheap scam too.
What would be interesting to discuss here is what legal actions to take in order to bring down the Wwasp imperium and any present future clones.
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Shouldn't there be some child protection laws that prevent the parents from sending their children to horrible places like this? Isn't a child allowed to get legal help, even if they are outside the US?
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Heh, you've hit the nail on the head there.
The problem is that this has to go through the child's legal guardian (usually the parent). Those "correctional programmes" lives high on the minor's lack of legal status in this field. They get the parent to sign some kind of contract that transfers responsibility for the child to them. They also make use of the fact that parents desperate enough to seek such measures for their unruly children have very little faith in their children. They would be much more inclined to believe that their children are lying, than the hard truth that they have sent their own progeny to hell willingly. Especially since the correctional programmes sends out information letters explicitly telling them to ignore any outlandish tales their children might write back to them as these are probably just part of the indignant and intransigent child's scheming to escape correction. It is cases like these that really shows us how legally defenceless a minor really is.
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But who's going to protect these children from their parents? Since it's the parents that are sending them there... The children should have a possibility of reaching somebody who will help them, if they want to get out. But I guess they would stop the letters from ever reaching those people...
It's really sick... Some of the kids in the report weren't even "defiant teens"... Well, at least not what I think of when I hear that. This girl was sent there because her parents didn't like her boyfriend!!! "Lindsay Cohen is nearly 19. A straight-A high-school graduate, she was heading for Harvard until an unsuitable choice of boyfriend had her sent here at the age of 17." How sick is that? I think that some of their parents need to go to a camp like this, and not their children... Somebody establish an "idiotic parent camp" please...
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From what I have read and these new headlines, Im thinking that the place is definately an excuse for abuse. While Im sure I condone far harsher treatment for "wild" kids than say.... Chewie for example [img]smile.gif[/img] (no offense ment here guy) I do not condone endangering their lives nor permanent physical damage. On the other hand. What is to be done with children that the parents just cannot control. I have met kids like this, I know they exist. What is the parent supposed to do? I see a lot of criticism about "depersonalizing" the kids...what about making them fit for civilized society? Some of the actions of the kids that were at this camp...were to me horrific and indicitive of future "monsters" as depicted in another thread in this forum. |
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It is not as much a matter of depersonalisation or lack of freedom than a matter of torture.
Even if it could make a kid drop some of his or her more unfortunate habits "drugs, etc." torture is still not a valid choice. Besides violently "straightening" a youngster's life up might leave that person with psychological (or even quite physical) traumas that might ruin their lives later. Besides you do not want your child to accept everything. These places are teaching children not to stand up when people they care about are being brutalized. They are being taught to silently accept being beaten crippled. Do any parent want to pay someone for repeatedly telling their children that their parents hate them? I think not. This organisation must be thoroughly destroyed (preferrably through lawful means).
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I plan on asking several mental health professionals I know about the camp's shrink. Nailing him for some sort of ethics violations would be a start.
[ 07-12-2003, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: Chewbacca ]
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