Ranger or Paladin?

Elendil · 01-19-2002, 12:12 PM

Okay. I cant choose between those two class and I need some advices and your own stories about playing those class...

Talthyr Malkaviel · 01-19-2002, 12:21 PM

Well, personally, I've not gone for a ranger very often, their special abilities aren't all that special, and if you pick up Minsc you have ranger tank on your hands.
Also, if you do go for a paladin, I'd suggest a cavalier.
Immune to fear, bonuses against some of the more really nasty beasts and other benefits.
The only disadvantage is no missile weapons, but if you ask me.
Put it this way, if you have others who can use missile weapons, and you're a cavalier with Carsomyr, would you want to quickly change to a missile weapon to take enemies out from a distance when you can just hack them into vile, unholy pieces?

[ 01-19-2002: Message edited by: Talthyr Malkaviel ]

Sir Exxon · 01-19-2002, 01:24 PM

Hmm, I personally favours the paladin, as a cavalier.
They can learn priest-spells, have very good abilities, and can wield the Carsomyr! I have finished the game as an solo cavalier, without much troubles.

But the ranger is also cool. He can have two extra proficiences, have good abilities, and is a good class to play.

It's hard to choose between two classes, but just wait till the people sees this post and gives you advices, and then choose the one you like best.

see ya!

Galadria1 · 01-19-2002, 01:34 PM

I played a ranger in BG, then switched to Cavalier in SoA. It's really a Paladin's game, what with Carsomyr, and your worst enemies are Demons and Dragons, which you are +2 extra against. Hmm, lemme see. If you are a cav, have Carsomyr+6 (you can do this in ToB), and have a dual proficiency in Two handed weapons and two handed sword, you have +12 against demaons and dragons, add the extra +5 for chaotic evil, and you end up +17 against the creeps. Will accept corrections to my math(not my strong suit, being blonde and all).

Aurican · 01-19-2002, 01:35 PM

It's hard not to guess what I am going to say but here goes. Choose the ranger, or more specifically the archer kit for the ranger. They are the most powerful (in my opinion) of the rangers. You get massive missile weapon bonus (+1 bonus to hit and damage for every 3 levels), grandmastery, stealth and have racial enemies. Like the paladin you get rudamentary but sometimes useful low level cleric spells. If you like the backstabing feature of thieves, stalkers can use that to up to x3. That is fun since your character can back him/herself up in a jam if you didn't take out your target on the first blow.

To be objective, of the paladins, I've always like the Unded Hunter. They are immune to level drainand hold, which I hate and they get bonuses fighting undead.

It really depends on your style of play. Good luck!

andy the assasin · 01-19-2002, 02:22 PM

I prefer rangers, because i don't really like what palidins stand for and there beleifs.

robo donkey · 01-19-2002, 02:43 PM

Paladin, isn't it funny how no-one mentions turn undead.

Elendil · 01-19-2002, 03:24 PM

Well I imported my old ranger to BG2 and choosed archer kit. It's cool to snipe those enemies down before they can even have a chance to melee combat.

Here is my ability scores:

STR 19
DEX 19
CONS 18
INT 9
WIS 14
CHA 18

All those have been tomed up in bg1.

Btw, where can I find some good Composite Long bow or just Long Bow. And what&where is the best non-metal armor in game?

andy the assasin · 01-19-2002, 03:30 PM

there is a good bow in the d'arnise household

Sir Exxon · 01-19-2002, 03:35 PM

Ahh, there are many good longbows spread over the game. One of them would be the Mana bow +4. BOW LOCATION SPOILER
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This can be found in a cave in the Forest of Tethyr.
And the best non-matel armour would be the Shadow Dragon-scale armour.
Cromwell forges this for ya, from the Shadow Dragon-scale and 5000gp.

see ya!

01-19-2002, 12:12 PM	#1
Elendil Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 13, 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 28	Okay. I cant choose between those two class and I need some advices and your own stories about playing those class... __________________ Elendil - the lethal elven archer<p>- It is too late to escape if you hear his arrows whistling on air. -

01-19-2002, 12:21 PM	#2
Talthyr Malkaviel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: August 31, 2001 Location: Land of the Britons Age: 38 Posts: 3,224	Well, personally, I've not gone for a ranger very often, their special abilities aren't all that special, and if you pick up Minsc you have ranger tank on your hands. Also, if you do go for a paladin, I'd suggest a cavalier. Immune to fear, bonuses against some of the more really nasty beasts and other benefits. The only disadvantage is no missile weapons, but if you ask me. Put it this way, if you have others who can use missile weapons, and you're a cavalier with Carsomyr, would you want to quickly change to a missile weapon to take enemies out from a distance when you can just hack them into vile, unholy pieces? [ 01-19-2002: Message edited by: Talthyr Malkaviel ] __________________ Resident cantankerous sorcerer of the Clan HADB<br />and Sorcerous Nuttella salesman of the O.R.T<br /> <br /><br />Say NO to the Trouser Tyranny! Can I drill you about this?

01-19-2002, 01:34 PM	#4
Galadria1 Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 11, 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 369	I played a ranger in BG, then switched to Cavalier in SoA. It's really a Paladin's game, what with Carsomyr, and your worst enemies are Demons and Dragons, which you are +2 extra against. Hmm, lemme see. If you are a cav, have Carsomyr+6 (you can do this in ToB), and have a dual proficiency in Two handed weapons and two handed sword, you have +12 against demaons and dragons, add the extra +5 for chaotic evil, and you end up +17 against the creeps. Will accept corrections to my math(not my strong suit, being blonde and all). __________________ Lady Galadria, a proud Cavalier of Keldorn\'s Order; Oh So Simple Marshmallow Woman of the ORT. Member, HADB<br /><br />\"Romance at short notice was her specialty.\" -Saki<br />Founder of the IW Branch of the Anti-Anomen Society

01-19-2002, 03:24 PM	#8
Elendil Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 13, 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 28	Well I imported my old ranger to BG2 and choosed archer kit. It's cool to snipe those enemies down before they can even have a chance to melee combat. Here is my ability scores: STR 19 DEX 19 CONS 18 INT 9 WIS 14 CHA 18 All those have been tomed up in bg1. Btw, where can I find some good Composite Long bow or just Long Bow. And what&where is the best non-metal armor in game? __________________ Elendil - the lethal elven archer<p>- It is too late to escape if you hear his arrows whistling on air. -

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01-19-2002, 01:24 PM	#3
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	Hmm, I personally favours the paladin, as a cavalier. They can learn priest-spells, have very good abilities, and can wield the Carsomyr! I have finished the game as an solo cavalier, without much troubles. But the ranger is also cool. He can have two extra proficiences, have good abilities, and is a good class to play. It's hard to choose between two classes, but just wait till the people sees this post and gives you advices, and then choose the one you like best. see ya!

01-19-2002, 01:35 PM	#5
Aurican Elminster Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina Age: 43 Posts: 470	It's hard not to guess what I am going to say but here goes. Choose the ranger, or more specifically the archer kit for the ranger. They are the most powerful (in my opinion) of the rangers. You get massive missile weapon bonus (+1 bonus to hit and damage for every 3 levels), grandmastery, stealth and have racial enemies. Like the paladin you get rudamentary but sometimes useful low level cleric spells. If you like the backstabing feature of thieves, stalkers can use that to up to x3. That is fun since your character can back him/herself up in a jam if you didn't take out your target on the first blow. To be objective, of the paladins, I've always like the Unded Hunter. They are immune to level drainand hold, which I hate and they get bonuses fighting undead. It really depends on your style of play. Good luck!

01-19-2002, 02:22 PM	#6
andy the assasin Manshoon Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Reading, England Posts: 168	I prefer rangers, because i don't really like what palidins stand for and there beleifs.

01-19-2002, 02:43 PM	#7
robo donkey Manshoon Join Date: January 18, 2002 Location: North Yorkshire, England Age: 38 Posts: 180	Paladin, isn't it funny how no-one mentions turn undead.

01-19-2002, 03:30 PM	#9
andy the assasin Manshoon Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Reading, England Posts: 168	there is a good bow in the d'arnise household

01-19-2002, 03:35 PM	#10
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	Ahh, there are many good longbows spread over the game. One of them would be the Mana bow +4. BOW LOCATION SPOILER * * * This can be found in a cave in the Forest of Tethyr. And the best non-matel armour would be the Shadow Dragon-scale armour. Cromwell forges this for ya, from the Shadow Dragon-scale and 5000gp. see ya!

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