Searching?

Aelia Jusa · 02-08-2004, 05:24 PM

Does having search on help you locate monsters, eg from further away? It's just that, I usually have search on but I turned it off when I ran into some juggernauts so we wouldn't be 'surprised due to searching', then after we finished them, we were literally suprised (ie, not 'surprised due to searching', but I was suprised because I didn't see them on the radar until they were quite close) by a group of geomancers down the road with search still off.

Thanks [img]smile.gif[/img]

Nightowl2 · 02-08-2004, 06:05 PM

Nope. Searching works only for hidden items. Has nothing to do with finding monsters (though it may help them find you

)

Nightowl2

Scatter · 02-08-2004, 07:48 PM

yah, and the sudden appearance on the radar is usually caused by a line-of-sight restriction.
What helps you see mobs from farther away is Scouting (Ranger only) and Senses. Every party should have at least one char with SEN over 50.

02-08-2004, 09:12 PM

Also, you mentioned Juggernauts. Well, like many creatures on Dominus, they have that annoying stealth ability that makes them harder to see, so you might run into them before its too late to prepare.

Aelia Jusa · 02-08-2004, 10:08 PM

No, we saw the juggernauts no problem, it was 3 geomancers and an earth elemental that snuck up on us

.

Anyway thanks [img]smile.gif[/img] . It was probably a line of sight issue then [img]smile.gif[/img] . I think we have one person with 55 senses at least as well.

Another question I have with searching, is how long does it take to find something? I mean, obviously there's not a hidden object everywhere, but if something's going to turn up does it pay to stand about or will they find it if they're going to find it straight away? Hope that made sense [img]graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Dang · 02-09-2004, 12:03 AM

If you have a Ranger, hidden objects turn up pretty quickly. I think it's the same with searching, BUT--some objects seem to be better hidden than others. A Ranger or Detect Secrets spell seem to be the best way to find hidden objects. I have a party of six Dracon Fighters who can't find objects that I know are there (been found by every other party I ever had).

Holywhippet · 02-09-2004, 12:10 AM

To get around the line of sight problem use the X-ray spell or a gadget equivalent. I generally find that you'll find an object within seconds if you are going to find it at all.

Aelia Jusa · 02-09-2004, 01:36 AM

Thanks [img]smile.gif[/img] . Are there any 'good' hidden objects? Like, I don't know, magic weapons or something like that? I find mostly potions.

Scatter · 02-09-2004, 02:18 AM

Some Instruments and Gadgets are hidden. And a lot of useful jewellery.

Wereboar · 02-09-2004, 06:30 AM

Quote:

To get around the line of sight problem use the X-ray spell or a gadget equivalent. I generally find that you'll find an object within seconds if you are going to find it at all.

X-ray doesn't help finding hidden objects, but it shows unhidden ones from quite far away. To find hidden objects, use the spell Detect Secrets.

02-08-2004, 05:24 PM	#1
Aelia Jusa Iron Throne Cult Join Date: August 23, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 43 Posts: 4,867	Does having search on help you locate monsters, eg from further away? It's just that, I usually have search on but I turned it off when I ran into some juggernauts so we wouldn't be 'surprised due to searching', then after we finished them, we were literally suprised (ie, not 'surprised due to searching', but I was suprised because I didn't see them on the radar until they were quite close) by a group of geomancers down the road with search still off. Thanks [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________

02-08-2004, 10:08 PM	#5
Aelia Jusa Iron Throne Cult Join Date: August 23, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 43 Posts: 4,867	No, we saw the juggernauts no problem, it was 3 geomancers and an earth elemental that snuck up on us . Anyway thanks [img]smile.gif[/img] . It was probably a line of sight issue then [img]smile.gif[/img] . I think we have one person with 55 senses at least as well. Another question I have with searching, is how long does it take to find something? I mean, obviously there's not a hidden object everywhere, but if something's going to turn up does it pay to stand about or will they find it if they're going to find it straight away? Hope that made sense [img]graemlins/blush.gif[/img] __________________

02-09-2004, 01:36 AM	#8
Aelia Jusa Iron Throne Cult Join Date: August 23, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 43 Posts: 4,867	Thanks [img]smile.gif[/img] . Are there any 'good' hidden objects? Like, I don't know, magic weapons or something like that? I find mostly potions. __________________

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02-08-2004, 06:05 PM	#2
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 47 Posts: 2,190	Nope. Searching works only for hidden items. Has nothing to do with finding monsters (though it may help them find you ) Nightowl2

02-08-2004, 07:48 PM	#3
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 66 Posts: 1,336	yah, and the sudden appearance on the radar is usually caused by a line-of-sight restriction. What helps you see mobs from farther away is Scouting (Ranger only) and Senses. Every party should have at least one char with SEN over 50.

02-08-2004, 09:12 PM	#4
SecretMaster Guest Posts: n/a	Also, you mentioned Juggernauts. Well, like many creatures on Dominus, they have that annoying stealth ability that makes them harder to see, so you might run into them before its too late to prepare.

02-09-2004, 12:03 AM	#6
Dang The Magister Join Date: January 2, 2004 Location: Austin Age: 54 Posts: 125	If you have a Ranger, hidden objects turn up pretty quickly. I think it's the same with searching, BUT--some objects seem to be better hidden than others. A Ranger or Detect Secrets spell seem to be the best way to find hidden objects. I have a party of six Dracon Fighters who can't find objects that I know are there (been found by every other party I ever had).

02-09-2004, 12:10 AM	#7
Holywhippet Dungeon Master Join Date: December 4, 2002 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 52 Posts: 92	To get around the line of sight problem use the X-ray spell or a gadget equivalent. I generally find that you'll find an object within seconds if you are going to find it at all.

02-09-2004, 02:18 AM	#9
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 66 Posts: 1,336	Some Instruments and Gadgets are hidden. And a lot of useful jewellery.

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