newbie need some suggestions

[Snowking]

I want to add a sorcerer to my party but i don't know which one to take away.
Here are the members

1.aasimar figher/paladin
str 18,dex 13,con 16,int 13,wis 10,cha 10

2.shield dwarf fighter/barbarian
str 18 dex16 con 20 int 3 wis 18 cha 1

3.human monk
str 18 dex 18 con 16 int 3 wis 18 cha3

4.drow bard
str 10 dex 12 con 10 int 14 wis 14 cha 20
(may multiclass to a cleric)

5.drow wizard
str 10 dex 20 con 14 int 20 wis 10 cha 6

6.aasimar cleric helm
str 11 dex 13 con 14 int 10 wis 20 cha 12

QN1) i wanted to remove the bard but i liked the songs and the items usable by the bards.however,besides that,the bard seems pretty useless.so.....what should i do.i need suggestions.

Qn)2oh by the way,about character 2,should i use a half orc or dwarf?the half orc has str bonus but the dwarf has con bonus,i really can't know which one to talk.

Qn3)And about the paladin/fighter,should i level as a paladin or fighter?

Please kindly help me to solve my problems.thanks alot.

[ZFR]

A1) i find bards to be very useful though single class bards are a waste... my suggestion is combine wizard and bard into 1 character... and add a sorcerer... the fact that its more difficult to find scrolls and the fact that you have a sorcerer make a wizard less useful.... combined with bard it would be better....

A2) half orc is my suggestion... strenghth is better than Con

A3) unless you add more points to CHA level as fighter.... though its better to increase CHA and level as paladin (decrease INT and DEX)... paladinds get bonus saving throw and better lay hands and turn undead with high CHA...

[Larry_OHF]

My first pick would have been thre drow bard. If not, then the human monk. I do ont care for either very much. But that is just me.

[Cannibal Monkey]

Originally posted by ZFR: A1) i find bards to be very useful though single class bards are a waste... my suggestion is combine wizard and bard into 1 character... and add a sorcerer... the fact that its more difficult to find scrolls and the fact that you have a sorcerer make a wizard less useful.... combined with bard it would be better.... A3) unless you add more points to CHA level as fighter.... though its better to increase CHA and level as paladin (decrease INT and DEX)... paladinds get bonus saving throw and better lay hands and turn undead with high CHA...

A1) I prefer dualling a Bard to a fighter (for 4 levels or so, just for 3 slots in a weapon)and using him as my party leader cos of the high CHA you give him

A3) Don't forget that paladins turn rewards down. I'd say to level up in pure fighter and use the bard as the leader.

I'd probably lose the wizard and replace with a sorceror.

[Snowking]

thanks for the suggestions.but i still have some doubts.

1.some of the nice feats need high dex and int,for example dirty fighting and expertise.

2.is there a weapon like pale justice in icwind dale 1 that is only usable by paladin?

3.i thought con will give you more hps,isn't that more beneficial?what the benefits to have high str?

thanks.

[ZFR]

Originally posted by Cannibal Monkey: A3) Don't forget that paladins turn rewards down. I'd say to level up in pure fighter and use the bard as the leader.

Paladins will turn reward down even if its only one level of paladin.... simply dont have him as leader of your party.....

Snowking,
yes there is a weapon only usable by paladins and its considered by many the best weapon in the game

Con will gve more hp.... strenghth increases chance to hit in melee and increases damagein melee ... if your using 2handed weapon that damage is increased 1and a half times... also it affects carrying weight...

and imo, the dirty fighting feat isnt too useful, unless you perhaps combine it with imroved critical....

[Cannibal Monkey]

Originally posted by ZFR: and imo, the dirty fighting feat isnt too useful, unless you perhaps combine it with imroved critical....

Unless the person with Dirty Fighting is totally inept/uses daggers, a critical tends to kill without the need to further hinder the opponent.

[Ar-Cunin]

Originally posted by Snowking: thanks for the suggestions.but i still have some doubts. 1.some of the nice feats need high dex and int,for example dirty fighting and expertise.

13 DEX and 13 INT should take care of nearly all of the feats.

2.is there a weapon like pale justice in icwind dale 1 that is only usable by paladin?

Oh yes - but it comes fairly late and there is a hard fight involved.

3.i thought con will give you more hps,isn't that more beneficial?what the benefits to have high str? thanks.

IMO STR is better - it gives bonus to damage and enables you to carry more, where as con 'only' gives you more HP and better fortitude saves - nothing that a fighter must have (10HP pr. lvl is enough)

[Ar-Cunin]

Originally posted by Cannibal Monkey: quote: Originally posted by ZFR: and imo, the dirty fighting feat isnt too useful, unless you perhaps combine it with imroved critical....

Unless the person with Dirty Fighting is totally inept/uses daggers, a critical tends to kill without the need to further hinder the opponent. [/QUOTE]Actually it can be quite useful - for an archer type. Nothing better than to score a crit and 'seeing' your opponent go blind and stopping in his tracks.

[Cannibal Monkey]

Originally posted by Ar-Cunin: quote: Originally posted by Cannibal Monkey: quote: Originally posted by ZFR: and imo, the dirty fighting feat isnt too useful, unless you perhaps combine it with imroved critical....

Unless the person with Dirty Fighting is totally inept/uses daggers, a critical tends to kill without the need to further hinder the opponent. [/QUOTE]Actually it can be quite useful - for an archer type. Nothing better than to score a crit and 'seeing' your opponent go blind and stopping in his tracks. [/QUOTE]Didnt know it worked with missile weapons...

wow, you learn something every day.