Evil *evil* black dragon.

[Redblueflare]

I just have to ask this but did anyone think that the battle with the Black Dragon in chapter 5 was just slightly evil? You get a tiny arena, and any thing you summon will most likely wander off. *so wishes he could control elementals again* Not to mention the insane thing about thirty damage a hit. Took me five reloads to kill this thing without anyone dying. Which is *somewhat* ridiculous. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Did the dragon give anyone else trouble?

[Darthiir]

I must agree that the balck dragon is unbalanced. But so are two wizards with mordekain's swords who can hack them down in three rounds!

The game has too many unbalanced battles. Really did you find that the four golems in the monks tomb are invincible? Did you manage to kill them?

[Luvian]

The Dragon is not any stronger than any other Dragons in any other Infinity Engine game...

Is the game unbalanced, or is your party not balanced?

[Redblueflare]

Originally posted by Darthiir: I must agree that the balck dragon is unbalanced. But so are two wizards with mordekain's swords who can hack them down in three rounds! The game has too many unbalanced battles. Really did you find that the four golems in the monks tomb are invincible? Did you manage to kill them?

Yes the fight with the golems was *somewhat* unfair. Managed to kill though though with six elementals. They weren't too bad as long as you didn't try to take them all on at the same time. Mordenkaien's sword is a very cool spell. But a wizard and a sorcerer together with one is fun. It would've made the golems easier that's for certain.

Originally posted by Luvian: The Dragon is not any stronger than any other Dragons in any other Infinity Engine game... Is the game unbalanced, or is your party not balanced?

I know that but when i'm fighting dragons, I usually have a lot more room to manuever. Wizards and such wouldn't be at the front line getting themselves killed.

[Aelia Jusa]

Originally posted by Redblueflare: I know that but when i'm fighting dragons, I usually have a lot more room to manuever. Wizards and such wouldn't be at the front line getting themselves killed.

Well you can move your party down the stairs, then summon him and make him come down. That gives you a lot more room.

I thought he was very tough, though less so when I realised you needed +3 weapons to kill him and I kitted everyone out properly . Not unbalanced though I wouldn't say.

[Magness]

Originally posted by Aelia Jusa: quote: Originally posted by Redblueflare: I know that but when i'm fighting dragons, I usually have a lot more room to manuever. Wizards and such wouldn't be at the front line getting themselves killed.

Well you can move your party down the stairs, then summon him and make him come down. That gives you a lot more room.

I thought he was very tough, though less so when I realised you needed +3 weapons to kill him and I kitted everyone out properly . Not unbalanced though I wouldn't say.[/QUOTE]Exactly right!

Fighting the dragon on the platform is about the same thing as yelling "Kill me! Kill me!"

Fight the dragon away from the platform and spread out your party. Summon some monster cannon fodder to keep the dragon occupied. Full party buffing. Spare no expense. Use your best saved up ammo.

@Redblueflare Only 5 reloads? The Guardian is SUPPOSED to be REALLY tough! Without good tactics, your party should get whacked!

And don't bother whining about the 4 Iron Golems. You don't HAVE to fight them to progess. From the story's perspective, the Monks put 4 golems there to protect the tomb. They weren't trying to be "Fair" when they put 4 IG's around the tomb. This is one of those fights that should be monsterously difficult if you choose to not bypass it.

[Attalus]

LOL, I positioned my party right at the entrance to the Underdark, had Imoen run break into the tomb, and then ran off before the golems could catch her!

[Magness]

Originally posted by Attalus: LOL, I positioned my party right at the entrance to the Underdark, had Imoen run break into the tomb, and then ran off before the golems could catch her!

Did the same thing with my first party. That is, after getting my ass SERIOUSLY kicked.

[Piestrider]

Heh! i did pretty much the same thing except i felt kind of bad so i exported my character with all of the items and then reimported her in a previously saved game. That importing stuff sure comes in handy.
I now have two moonblades of selune. Works well, i must say.

[Eg0[)e@th]

I found it more advantageous to block the dragon so it couldn't escape the platform while I pelted it. I cast Otiluke's Resilient Sphere on a character who stood at the very bottom of the stairs. I did damage with missle weapons and summoned critters.

Killed it my first try without losing any characters in Heart of Fury mode.