GARRICK

Sparhawk · 01-27-2002, 10:41 PM

Well I´m wondering if he´s worthe anything....my current party is:
Me Fighter...Big bald guy with a nasty attitude!
Edwin
Imoen
Branween...I´m so sorry that the creators didn´t think of her in BG2
Coran...I can´t really make up my mind between him or Kivan?
and last some idiotic paladin I picked up in the Ankheg screen...is he any good?

Sparhawk threw the blue saphre against the hellbeast and with a gigantic implosion the creature faltered untill only two forms were left. one blue and one red, strugling as if the future of the world lay in their hands!

Lemernis · 01-27-2002, 10:57 PM

Garrick I haven't used much. I used to hate them but recently I've found bards are actually a lot of fun to play. From waht little I have seen of him I have a feeling Garrick may be one of the more annoying NPCs.

Ajantis is not so great. He is the weakest among the four good aligned warrior types.

Kivan and Coran is a toss up. Both are as good they get. Coran is an exceptional archer. In addition to being an excellent archer in his own right Kivan offers some melee ability with a halberd.

Forscythe · 01-27-2002, 11:34 PM

Always pick the stronger of the two archers!!!

Kivan can carry more...is more versatile and has vengence in his blood!!!

Thats a winning formula!!!

Sparhawk · 01-28-2002, 12:10 AM

To hell with vengeance...but if his carryload are bigger he´s my man...I always seem to have some ankheg heads lying around somewhere in a ditch waiting for a strong guy to pick´em up!
Ajantis is by by....and to think i booted Minsc on acount of this wannabe paladin ;-(

Sparhawk cursed as Talen ran away with some of his coins

Scholarcs · 01-29-2002, 01:54 AM

Brave-brave Sir Garrik, Sir Garrik led the way, Brave-brave Sir Garrik, Sir Garrik ran away...

My opinion. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Katherine · 01-29-2002, 02:31 AM

I think his sound set is too annoying to even consider him. He refers to you as "sir" constantly, in the assumption that all players are male...

If you want a bard, go for Eldoth. He's fun and he has a cute portrait. Plus, he's evil, which is always good.

Darkheart · 01-29-2002, 04:52 AM

Just kill him, all bards are pretty useless, but Garrick is a real exemplar.

norompanlasolas · 01-29-2002, 07:47 AM

all bards in bg1 are pretty useless, in bg2 they can be quite good.

and yes, garrick is the perfect example of a completely useless npc. he cant melee, use a bow, do magic, steal or do anything well enough. and his stats are awful too.

01-29-2002, 02:04 PM

Garick is just awful, as norompanlasolas says. What makes it worse is that by the time I get to him (around level 3) he's still level 1. Bards only become truly powerful in ToB

Midget Gems · 01-29-2002, 05:27 PM

A few months ago, in a posting on Bards, I nominated Garrick as the worst NPC in BG1. This is especially true if you don't have TOTSC installed becuase this gives Bards an extra weapon. His stats are bad, particulaly his constitution, so at lower Levels he either gets killed or he runs away all the time. However if you persevere and get to higher levels then he can make a contribution. After all any NPC with a Composite Bow and a Wand is certainly going to do some damage
If all else fails - cast Mirror Image, Shield and Haste on him and use him as cannon fodder.

So if you want a nice easy game, with lots of melee fighting, then he's certainly not for you. Alternativelt if you are looking for a challenge then take Garrick along for the ride.

01-27-2002, 10:41 PM	#1
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 47 Posts: 1,071	Well I´m wondering if he´s worthe anything....my current party is: Me Fighter...Big bald guy with a nasty attitude! Edwin Imoen Branween...I´m so sorry that the creators didn´t think of her in BG2 Coran...I can´t really make up my mind between him or Kivan? and last some idiotic paladin I picked up in the Ankheg screen...is he any good? Sparhawk threw the blue saphre against the hellbeast and with a gigantic implosion the creature faltered untill only two forms were left. one blue and one red, strugling as if the future of the world lay in their hands! __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

01-27-2002, 10:57 PM	#2
Lemernis Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: July 8, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 611	Garrick I haven't used much. I used to hate them but recently I've found bards are actually a lot of fun to play. From waht little I have seen of him I have a feeling Garrick may be one of the more annoying NPCs. Ajantis is not so great. He is the weakest among the four good aligned warrior types. Kivan and Coran is a toss up. Both are as good they get. Coran is an exceptional archer. In addition to being an excellent archer in his own right Kivan offers some melee ability with a halberd. __________________ Exodus: Shadows of the South

01-28-2002, 12:10 AM	#4
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 47 Posts: 1,071	To hell with vengeance...but if his carryload are bigger he´s my man...I always seem to have some ankheg heads lying around somewhere in a ditch waiting for a strong guy to pick´em up! Ajantis is by by....and to think i booted Minsc on acount of this wannabe paladin ;-( Sparhawk cursed as Talen ran away with some of his coins __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

01-29-2002, 01:54 AM	#5
Scholarcs Red Dragon Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 39 Posts: 1,557	Brave-brave Sir Garrik, Sir Garrik led the way, Brave-brave Sir Garrik, Sir Garrik ran away... My opinion. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ <br />\"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five\" - Groucho Marx<br />Member of the ORT Clan. <br />\"Some birds are not meant to be caged because their feathers are too bright\"<br />Ma bouche sera la bouche des malheurs qui n\'ont point de bouche, ma voix, la liberté de celles qui s\'affaissent au cachot du désespoir. - Aimé Césaire<br />La plus perdue de toutes les journées est celle où l\'on n\'a pas ri. - Sébastien Roch Nicolas

01-29-2002, 02:31 AM	#6
Katherine Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: perdition Posts: 340	I think his sound set is too annoying to even consider him. He refers to you as "sir" constantly, in the assumption that all players are male... If you want a bard, go for Eldoth. He's fun and he has a cute portrait. Plus, he's evil, which is always good. __________________ <i>The road to hell is paved with delicious intentions.</i><br /><br />Unholy Acorn Gatherer in the <b>Profane Order of the Hyper-Wrathful, All-Powerful Squirrel Goddess</b>

01-27-2002, 11:34 PM	#3
Forscythe Dungeon Master Join Date: September 8, 2001 Location: Trinidad WI. Posts: 70	Always pick the stronger of the two archers!!! Kivan can carry more...is more versatile and has vengence in his blood!!! Thats a winning formula!!!

01-29-2002, 04:52 AM	#7
Darkheart Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 26, 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 15	Just kill him, all bards are pretty useless, but Garrick is a real exemplar.

01-29-2002, 07:47 AM	#8
norompanlasolas Avatar Join Date: November 13, 2001 Location: madrid, spain... made in argentina Age: 48 Posts: 569	all bards in bg1 are pretty useless, in bg2 they can be quite good. and yes, garrick is the perfect example of a completely useless npc. he cant melee, use a bow, do magic, steal or do anything well enough. and his stats are awful too. __________________ no

01-29-2002, 02:04 PM	#9
Sorcerer Alex Guest Posts: n/a	Garick is just awful, as norompanlasolas says. What makes it worse is that by the time I get to him (around level 3) he's still level 1. Bards only become truly powerful in ToB

01-29-2002, 05:27 PM	#10
Midget Gems Avatar Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 34 Posts: 568	A few months ago, in a posting on Bards, I nominated Garrick as the worst NPC in BG1. This is especially true if you don't have TOTSC installed becuase this gives Bards an extra weapon. His stats are bad, particulaly his constitution, so at lower Levels he either gets killed or he runs away all the time. However if you persevere and get to higher levels then he can make a contribution. After all any NPC with a Composite Bow and a Wand is certainly going to do some damage If all else fails - cast Mirror Image, Shield and Haste on him and use him as cannon fodder. So if you want a nice easy game, with lots of melee fighting, then he's certainly not for you. Alternativelt if you are looking for a challenge then take Garrick along for the ride. __________________ Midget Gems - Heroes in their own lunch time and creator of the Suicidal Gnomes.

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