Final Boss *spoilers*

Rockstar · 07-09-2005, 04:54 AM

hey every1.

i am currently playing a solo mage (a necromancer to be exact) and i do not have TOB installed (a friend has my copy...) and i have reached my XP cap and am about to enter saldunesselar.

I have defeated firkraag, the shaddow dragon and all other foes that have stood in my way but am wondering if anybody thinks if my character is a match for irenicus. I think that i may be in the need for 'time stop' in order to be able to defeat irenicus...

does anybody else think that without level 9 spells or high level abilities that my solo mage is unlikely to defeat irenicus?

i wanna kinda get a larger point of view because if anybody else doesn't think i'd be able to defeat him because if not i'll wait till i get my disks back (which may be some time...) and then do some extra quests and some of the watcher's keep to get some more levels and then show irenicus what spell casting is about [img]smile.gif[/img]

ElfBane · 07-09-2005, 10:46 AM

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IIRC you have to beat Irenicus twice, so if you feel you can beat him the first time WITHOUT turning into the Slayer, then I would say 'go for it'. Make a savegame ,though.

Stonewarrior · 07-09-2005, 12:01 PM

Are you playing with the Tactics mod? I had trouble with the final battles not having Time Stop when playing Improved Irenicus...but that might just be me.

Peace, John.

Lord · 07-09-2005, 02:23 PM

I guess you can do it, but it'll be much harder. If you're soloing, you really should have level 9 spells by the time you get to him (you get level 9 spells at level 18). I have a party of 6 and Edwin is level 17, and he'll probably be around 19/20 by the time he gets to Irenicus. It shouldn't make sense to have a mage in a party of 6 have more XP than a solo mage, so it simply means that you missed a handfull of quests. Did you do windspear hills, trademeet, umar hills, and the keep? Go around Athkatla and look around for quests. The stronghold quests are particularly XP rewarding.

SixOfSpades · 07-09-2005, 03:03 PM

I get the feeling that if Rockstar is playing with Tactics installed, he would know about it, and know that a Solo Necromancer (no Project Image!) hasn't got a prayer of beating Improved Irenicus without every HLA and cheese in the book. Therefore I feel safe in tell him to go right ahead, regular Irenicus (both of them) is an absolute doddle, just make sure to have some good Summons available and be ready to think on your feet. Note: I'm not saying the final level is easy, just that Irenicus is.

Then again, if you want to continue playing the game, you're going to have to install ToB soon. Very, very soon, in fact. So you can either
a) Stop playing right now (probably starting all over again with a new character), and resume when you've got ToB installed, or
b) Beat the game with your Necromancer right now, then install ToB, and slowly come to the conclusion that all the EXP you earned in Chapter 7 didn't count for anything, and you also don't get to keep the effects of the Tears (the meaning of this will become clear to you in the final battle).

In conclusion: Yes you can, but no you shouldn't.

Rockstar · 07-09-2005, 10:55 PM

in reply to lord: i do not have TOB installed. I hit my exp cap long ago. I am currently writing up a report of my adventure as i go to post on the forums but i am only getting to play once or twice a week so i would be updating it very slowly.

I reached my XP cap well before i returned from the underdark

thanks six of spades, i will wait and not waste any more experience until i get my TOB back and then do some more quests to get my HLA's to kick irenicus's arse! i am not using the cloak of mirroring btw so there goes that idea... lol

Imrahil · 07-10-2005, 08:03 PM

If nothing else, you can still use *scrolls* of 9th level spells. Call it a hunch, but I think you'll even find a Time Stop scroll soon... [img]smile.gif[/img]

- Imrahil

Rockstar · 07-11-2005, 05:12 AM

yeah i can get scrolls and have bought some

but i am going with what six of spades said and not pushing on until i have TOB installed... all that XP that could mean the continued survival for my mage is not something that i should waste. I think that i could use scrolls to defeat him but it would still be hard and as six of spades said: i could but i shouldn't.

thanks to all for your help [img]smile.gif[/img]

07-09-2005, 10:46 AM	#2
ElfBane Mephistopheles Join Date: March 21, 2004 Location: Cape Canaveral, FL Age: 70 Posts: 1,447	SPOILER * * * * * * * * * IIRC you have to beat Irenicus twice, so if you feel you can beat him the first time WITHOUT turning into the Slayer, then I would say 'go for it'. Make a savegame ,though. __________________ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790), Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. Iraq and Afghan fatalities: 6,855 and counting. Silence IS consent.

07-09-2005, 02:23 PM	#4
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 40 Posts: 3,302	I guess you can do it, but it'll be much harder. If you're soloing, you really should have level 9 spells by the time you get to him (you get level 9 spells at level 18). I have a party of 6 and Edwin is level 17, and he'll probably be around 19/20 by the time he gets to Irenicus. It shouldn't make sense to have a mage in a party of 6 have more XP than a solo mage, so it simply means that you missed a handfull of quests. Did you do windspear hills, trademeet, umar hills, and the keep? Go around Athkatla and look around for quests. The stronghold quests are particularly XP rewarding. __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

07-09-2005, 03:03 PM	#5
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	I get the feeling that if Rockstar is playing with Tactics installed, he would know about it, and know that a Solo Necromancer (no Project Image!) hasn't got a prayer of beating Improved Irenicus without every HLA and cheese in the book. Therefore I feel safe in tell him to go right ahead, regular Irenicus (both of them) is an absolute doddle, just make sure to have some good Summons available and be ready to think on your feet. Note: I'm not saying the final level is easy, just that Irenicus is. Then again, if you want to continue playing the game, you're going to have to install ToB soon. Very, very soon, in fact. So you can either a) Stop playing right now (probably starting all over again with a new character), and resume when you've got ToB installed, or b) Beat the game with your Necromancer right now, then install ToB, and slowly come to the conclusion that all the EXP you earned in Chapter 7 didn't count for anything, and you also don't get to keep the effects of the Tears (the meaning of this will become clear to you in the final battle). In conclusion: Yes you can, but no you shouldn't. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

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07-09-2005, 04:54 AM	#1
Rockstar Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 4, 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 300	hey every1. i am currently playing a solo mage (a necromancer to be exact) and i do not have TOB installed (a friend has my copy...) and i have reached my XP cap and am about to enter saldunesselar. I have defeated firkraag, the shaddow dragon and all other foes that have stood in my way but am wondering if anybody thinks if my character is a match for irenicus. I think that i may be in the need for 'time stop' in order to be able to defeat irenicus... does anybody else think that without level 9 spells or high level abilities that my solo mage is unlikely to defeat irenicus? i wanna kinda get a larger point of view because if anybody else doesn't think i'd be able to defeat him because if not i'll wait till i get my disks back (which may be some time...) and then do some extra quests and some of the watcher's keep to get some more levels and then show irenicus what spell casting is about [img]smile.gif[/img]

07-09-2005, 12:01 PM	#3
Stonewarrior Manshoon Join Date: January 10, 2005 Location: Independence, MO Age: 54 Posts: 234	Are you playing with the Tactics mod? I had trouble with the final battles not having Time Stop when playing Improved Irenicus...but that might just be me. Peace, John.

07-09-2005, 10:55 PM	#6
Rockstar Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 4, 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 300	in reply to lord: i do not have TOB installed. I hit my exp cap long ago. I am currently writing up a report of my adventure as i go to post on the forums but i am only getting to play once or twice a week so i would be updating it very slowly. I reached my XP cap well before i returned from the underdark thanks six of spades, i will wait and not waste any more experience until i get my TOB back and then do some more quests to get my HLA's to kick irenicus's arse! i am not using the cloak of mirroring btw so there goes that idea... lol

07-10-2005, 08:03 PM	#7
Imrahil Elminster Join Date: November 4, 2001 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 469	If nothing else, you can still use scrolls of 9th level spells. Call it a hunch, but I think you'll even find a Time Stop scroll soon... [img]smile.gif[/img] - Imrahil

07-11-2005, 05:12 AM	#8
Rockstar Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 4, 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 300	yeah i can get scrolls and have bought some but i am going with what six of spades said and not pushing on until i have TOB installed... all that XP that could mean the continued survival for my mage is not something that i should waste. I think that i could use scrolls to defeat him but it would still be hard and as six of spades said: i could but i shouldn't. thanks to all for your help [img]smile.gif[/img]

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