Blood Cries out for Blood and other Oddities...

Kestrel Daystar · 12-07-2004, 12:00 PM

Heyas everyone

This is a question about mod oddities. I have installed a few mods to spice up my gaming experience. I have played through Baldur's Gate 2 and Throne of Bhaal a number of times (approximately 6) and enjoy each time thoroughly. I always found something new and its was a good time playing it. I thought now, it might be time to juice up the excitement as I read an article in PCGamer about a few good BG2 mods. So I decided to try them out. From what I read, the new stuff looked great, and I couldn't wait to start playing.

Now here is where my oddities start. I noticed as I was playing through that, a fair few NPCs had their names changed to what looks to be 'dialogue'. The first encounter was the genie in Irenicus' dungeon. Then, when I got out all the town criers had; "Blood cries out for blood, but it is a small price to pay for immortality" as their name. When I finished the circus tent quest a little girl came up to me with a 'dialogue' name and talked to me. All my responses to her odd question seemed to be snippets of other dialogues. Other people include 4 new NPCs in the top of the Sea's Bounty, who weren't there before.

I wondered what I could do to fix it, or can I not? If I don't fix it, can I continue new quests? For instance, the little girl... Was she the start of a new quest? Because if so, I cant talk to her because all my options of things to say are other dialogue actions.

The mods I have installed are:

Unfinished Business
Valen
Keto
Banter Pack
G3 Anniversary
Ease of Use (but only the Multi Strongholds, Edwina Portrait and Bonus Merchants from that are installed)
Black Rose Part I: Market Prices
Baldurdash
Official Patch

I did have Solaufein installed but I uninstalled it, could that be a problem?

Thanks for the help my friends

--Kestrel--

Riftmaker · 12-07-2004, 12:23 PM

Sounds like you installed the mods in the wrong order, or you installed 2 non-Weidu mods.

Correct order is:

SoA
ToB
ToB patch
Baldurdash
Non-Weidu mod
All Weidu mods.

Kestrel Daystar · 12-07-2004, 12:30 PM

Actually that was just a list, it wasnt the order I installed them. The order was:

SoA
ToB
ToB Patch
Unfinished Buisness
Solaufein
Valen
Baldurdash
Banter Pack
(Uninstalled Solaufein)
Black Rose Part I: Market Prices
G3 Anniversary
Ease of Use
Keto

Kestrel Daystar · 12-07-2004, 12:53 PM

Would it all be fixed if I uninstalled all the mods then re-installed them?

Riftmaker · 12-07-2004, 01:48 PM

Well there's the gimpness right there. You installed them in the wrong order.

No, it won't work. It's screwed up because the dialogue.tlk file has been indexed in a screwed up manner because the installation order was wrong.

You can try uninstalling ALL of the mods and re-installing them in the proper order. If that doesn't work, you're going to have to re-install BG2 from scratch (which is why you usually make a backup copy of a freshly patched and baldurdashed installation, and block-copy it if necesarry.)

Don't worry, everyone does this at least once.

SixOfSpades · 12-07-2004, 09:26 PM

Kestrel, the "odd man out" in your install order was BaldurDash. It's supposed to go after the official (BioWare) patches, and before any mods. All your mods appear to be WeiDU, so those can go in any order.

Kestrel Daystar · 12-08-2004, 03:37 PM

Thankyou all. I am most grateful for the assist.
One final question, on the Baldurdash website http://www.baldurdash.org/ToB/Fixes/TOBfixes.html the fixpack at the top, is that the only one I need to download? Are all the others included with this fixpack or do I have to download all those individually?

--Kestrel--

andrewas · 12-08-2004, 03:55 PM

The fixpack includes all the fixes on the page, unless it says otherwise somewhere, which it didnt last I checked.

Riftmaker · 12-08-2004, 09:33 PM

ALL of the fixes are included in Baldurdash, just make sure you install the right one

It looks like you have it though.

Kestrel Daystar · 12-08-2004, 09:52 PM

Aye, in the end I just un-installed the whole of Baldur's Gate then re-installed it so it was completely and perfectly correct. I installed all the mods in the right order then went onto Shadowkeeper to look at all the NPCs and Creature on the lists. Not one of them had a 'dialogue' name.

Thankye ever so much, ye have been a blessing.

--Kestrel--

12-07-2004, 12:00 PM	#1
Kestrel Daystar Elminster Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: The Green Pastures of England\'s Fields Age: 37 Posts: 458	Heyas everyone This is a question about mod oddities. I have installed a few mods to spice up my gaming experience. I have played through Baldur's Gate 2 and Throne of Bhaal a number of times (approximately 6) and enjoy each time thoroughly. I always found something new and its was a good time playing it. I thought now, it might be time to juice up the excitement as I read an article in PCGamer about a few good BG2 mods. So I decided to try them out. From what I read, the new stuff looked great, and I couldn't wait to start playing. Now here is where my oddities start. I noticed as I was playing through that, a fair few NPCs had their names changed to what looks to be 'dialogue'. The first encounter was the genie in Irenicus' dungeon. Then, when I got out all the town criers had; "Blood cries out for blood, but it is a small price to pay for immortality" as their name. When I finished the circus tent quest a little girl came up to me with a 'dialogue' name and talked to me. All my responses to her odd question seemed to be snippets of other dialogues. Other people include 4 new NPCs in the top of the Sea's Bounty, who weren't there before. I wondered what I could do to fix it, or can I not? If I don't fix it, can I continue new quests? For instance, the little girl... Was she the start of a new quest? Because if so, I cant talk to her because all my options of things to say are other dialogue actions. The mods I have installed are: Unfinished Business Valen Keto Banter Pack G3 Anniversary Ease of Use (but only the Multi Strongholds, Edwina Portrait and Bonus Merchants from that are installed) Black Rose Part I: Market Prices Baldurdash Official Patch I did have Solaufein installed but I uninstalled it, could that be a problem? Thanks for the help my friends --Kestrel-- __________________ [img]\"http://img116.exs.cx/img116/7517/signature1en.png\" alt=\" - \" />

12-07-2004, 12:23 PM	#2
Riftmaker Elminster Join Date: August 30, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 40 Posts: 463	Sounds like you installed the mods in the wrong order, or you installed 2 non-Weidu mods. Correct order is: SoA ToB ToB patch Baldurdash Non-Weidu mod All Weidu mods. __________________ a.k.a. Lord`Rift<br />Founder, Anti-Idgit Squad.<br />\"I find your lack of geek knowledge disturbing\"

12-07-2004, 12:30 PM	#3
Kestrel Daystar Elminster Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: The Green Pastures of England\'s Fields Age: 37 Posts: 458	Actually that was just a list, it wasnt the order I installed them. The order was: SoA ToB ToB Patch Unfinished Buisness Solaufein Valen Baldurdash Banter Pack (Uninstalled Solaufein) Black Rose Part I: Market Prices G3 Anniversary Ease of Use Keto __________________ [img]\"http://img116.exs.cx/img116/7517/signature1en.png\" alt=\" - \" />

12-07-2004, 12:53 PM	#4
Kestrel Daystar Elminster Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: The Green Pastures of England\'s Fields Age: 37 Posts: 458	Would it all be fixed if I uninstalled all the mods then re-installed them? __________________ [img]\"http://img116.exs.cx/img116/7517/signature1en.png\" alt=\" - \" />

12-07-2004, 01:48 PM	#5
Riftmaker Elminster Join Date: August 30, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 40 Posts: 463	Well there's the gimpness right there. You installed them in the wrong order. No, it won't work. It's screwed up because the dialogue.tlk file has been indexed in a screwed up manner because the installation order was wrong. You can try uninstalling ALL of the mods and re-installing them in the proper order. If that doesn't work, you're going to have to re-install BG2 from scratch (which is why you usually make a backup copy of a freshly patched and baldurdashed installation, and block-copy it if necesarry.) Don't worry, everyone does this at least once. __________________ a.k.a. Lord`Rift<br />Founder, Anti-Idgit Squad.<br />\"I find your lack of geek knowledge disturbing\"

12-07-2004, 09:26 PM	#6
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	Kestrel, the "odd man out" in your install order was BaldurDash. It's supposed to go after the official (BioWare) patches, and before any mods. All your mods appear to be WeiDU, so those can go in any order. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

12-08-2004, 03:37 PM	#7
Kestrel Daystar Elminster Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: The Green Pastures of England\'s Fields Age: 37 Posts: 458	Thankyou all. I am most grateful for the assist. One final question, on the Baldurdash website http://www.baldurdash.org/ToB/Fixes/TOBfixes.html the fixpack at the top, is that the only one I need to download? Are all the others included with this fixpack or do I have to download all those individually? --Kestrel-- __________________ [img]\"http://img116.exs.cx/img116/7517/signature1en.png\" alt=\" - \" />

12-08-2004, 03:55 PM	#8
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 4,774	The fixpack includes all the fixes on the page, unless it says otherwise somewhere, which it didnt last I checked. __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

12-08-2004, 09:33 PM	#9
Riftmaker Elminster Join Date: August 30, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 40 Posts: 463	ALL of the fixes are included in Baldurdash, just make sure you install the right one It looks like you have it though. __________________ a.k.a. Lord`Rift<br />Founder, Anti-Idgit Squad.<br />\"I find your lack of geek knowledge disturbing\"

12-08-2004, 09:52 PM	#10
Kestrel Daystar Elminster Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: The Green Pastures of England\'s Fields Age: 37 Posts: 458	Aye, in the end I just un-installed the whole of Baldur's Gate then re-installed it so it was completely and perfectly correct. I installed all the mods in the right order then went onto Shadowkeeper to look at all the NPCs and Creature on the lists. Not one of them had a 'dialogue' name. Thankye ever so much, ye have been a blessing. --Kestrel-- __________________ [img]\"http://img116.exs.cx/img116/7517/signature1en.png\" alt=\" - \" />

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