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Old 10-24-2004, 01:22 PM   #1
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Ok, im in watchers keep, level 3, the dead magic rooom with the demons(trap at the beginning, you keep getting demon fear'd, and then a few other traps around the room). Anyway. I can't beat it. Just can't do it. I've got me (sorceror) minsc, jaheira, aerie, valygar and imoen. 3 spellcasters is just not cool for this room, and i can't cast resist fear, which means that half the time all 3 of my warriors are running around running into traps. Any help? Thanks.
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Old 10-24-2004, 01:58 PM   #2
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Equip everybody as defensively as you can, meaning low AC and Saving Throws. Set everybody's AI to Standard Attack, and leave the AI on in this room. Even if your characters get Panicked, they'll still attack the enemy, even if you can't control them. If you can control them, they can still do things like use Wands and Healing Potions.
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Old 11-13-2004, 04:09 PM   #3
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Try keeping your characters close to the entrance away from the front of the stairs where the traps are. Let the fiends come to you and hit them with your weapons. This worked for me.
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Old 12-03-2004, 12:31 PM   #4
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Perhaps, cast some buffing spells (Remove Fear, Prot. from Evil 10', Chant, etc.) on the party before entering this room.

Gladiator, you're right that this is a tough room without your spellcasting.

If you can keep Imoen from being hit by fear, perhaps have her try to detrap the room as much as possible while your tanks deal with the enemies.


I just finished TOB. My party was as follows:

Me (Swashbuckler)
Keldorn, Sir Anomen, Jahiera, Nalia, and Imoen.

In those heavily trapped WK rooms, I'd have my PC try to detrap while leaving my other tanks to hold the line. My swashy could clear the traps pretty quickly and clear the way for Keldorn and Anomen to take the fight to the demons.

Actually, my dualwielding swashy was one kick-ass melee fighter. About the only time that I held him back was against some dragons. Sometimes, I'd arm him with a bow and hold him back from the middle of the melee. But usually, he'd be right in the heart of the battle swinging those two blades like crazy!!!
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:58 PM   #5
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Originally posted by Magness:
Perhaps, cast some buffing spells (Remove Fear, Prot. from Evil 10', Chant, etc.) on the party before entering this room.
I think that all pre-buffing will be stripped from you when you enter the room (unless my memory is getting foggy).
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Old 12-04-2004, 12:02 AM   #6
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Could be true, Feral. I don't remember. My party didn't have that much trouble on this level of the Watcher's Keep. Oh, I had a couple of characters get zapped by fear, but my strongest melee fighters were more than strong enough to take out the bad guys without their help.
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:35 PM   #7
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I forgot to tell you that I would kill off one monster and then retreat through the portal. Cast "resist fear' and the re-enter the room, all the while staying away from the stairs. Trying to detrap with Imoen did not work because she would be instantly attacked and killed. Stay away from the stairs and you should do okay.
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