A really good mod...

[Xen]

I just got and installed a really good mod. It was made by Gebhard Blucher and it is really good. Some NPC`s can become useful. You can change them but when you do they are changed forever.


Changes:
Imoen...

• Thief
• Assassin
• Swashbuckler
• Multi Thief/Mage
• Wild Mage
• Sorceress
  
  
  Mazzy...
• Paladin
• Cavalier
• Undead Hunter
  
  Cernd...
• Monk(!) & Monk w/original stats.
• Totemic
• Avenger
• Druid
  
  Nalia...
• Conjurer
• Illusionist
• Wild Mage
• Sorceress
• Multi Fighter/Mage
  
  Jaheira...
• Cleric/Ranger
  
  Minsc...
• Barbarian (w/ & w/o Boo in the normal inventory slot)
• Berserker (w/ & w/o Boo in the normal inventory slot)
  
  Anomen...
• Paladin
• Cavalier
  
  Valygar...
• Wizard Slayer
• Kensai
  
  He can dual class to Thief. [img]smile.gif[/img]

My choics:
Jaheira-C/R
Minsc-Barbarian
Anomen-Cavalier
Mazzy-Undead Hunter
Cernd-Monk
Nalia-Multi-Class F/M
Imoen-Mutli-Class T/M


I think it was Level 1 NPC`s Mod.

[True_Moose]

Yes, Gebhard Blucher's NPCs are great...you can build whatever party you want, with all the banters. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[The Fallen One]

Where can u get the mod?

NIceee.....that's really cool

[Shadowlord]

Yes, Gebhard Blucher's NPCs are great...you can build whatever party you want, with all the banters.

While it is a nice option, I would have some reservations with the effect of some of those class changes on the NPC's story and roleplaying. Nalia as a Fighter/Mage? hrmph. Jahiera as a Cleric/Ranger? That is just completely ignoring her current character.

It is an interesting idea which allows more flexibility , and generates more interest in some neglected characters which is good. But I would rather see smaller tweaks such as a redistribution in Nalia's Thief skills, or a small improvement to Cernd's stats than a complete change of character which in some cases is unable to be rationalised with their backgrounds.

[Haldir]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Xen:
[QB] I just got and installed a really good mod. It was made by Gebhard Blucher and it is really good. Some NPC`s can become useful. You can change them but when you do they are changed forever.


Hey can u send it to me? Please [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Harkoliar]

check the sticky thread of bgmods.. its a good list

[Haldir]

Originally posted by Harkoliar: check the sticky thread of bgmods.. its a good list

Thanks

[Tyrion]

but does it work with the weimers?

[Pirengle]

Originally posted by Shadowlord: quote: Yes, Gebhard Blucher's NPCs are great...you can build whatever party you want, with all the banters.

While it is a nice option, I would have some reservations with the effect of some of those class changes on the NPC's story and roleplaying. Nalia as a Fighter/Mage? hrmph. Jahiera as a Cleric/Ranger? That is just completely ignoring her current character.[/QUOTE]Not just that. Cernd as a monk? Mazzy as a paladin? Anomen as a paladin? "Hey, let's take this highly ineffectual NPCs and make them uber-leet so they can roxxor with my kensai/mage." It's the same wince I make whenever somebody posts about how they SKed Viconia into a sorcerer or something. Doesn't anybody realize that part of an NPC's character is why he/she gains or trains a certain class? (But no, Pirengle, you're a roleplayer, not a powergamer, so go back to your Jesters and pureclass Wizard Slayers and leave the +12 hackmasters alone. [img]tongue.gif[/img] )

[/sarcasm]

The only two NPCs I could see changing are Valygar and Imoen. Imoen got DCed into a mage because as every BG1 player knows, most people DC Imoen into a mage around Chapter 5 in BG1 because she has 17 INT. Why, I don't know. Does she have a reason for wanting to be a mage? Not sure--the whiny purple beast never hangs out in my parties long enough for me to find out.

Valygar, however...
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...why this guy is a stalker of all things boggles my mind. He's anti-magic, so of course he picks a ranger kit with priest AND wizard spells. Not only that, but his preferred enemy is golem. Why? Because his little subquest is full of pain-in-the-posterior golems. So, why is he a ranger? Because he has a getaway home outside Athkatla? Wrong. He's a ranger because somebody screwed up somewhere, either by taking out quests or his romance or just plain old screwing up. He's a wizard slayer, pure, plain, and simple.

Yet in my mind there's a difference between changing a character to fit his or her actions and changing a character to cope with percieved inadequacies. Am I the only one who feels this way?

[ 09-30-2003, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Pirengle ]