A Q abuut Liches

Raistlin Majere · 05-08-2003, 10:13 AM

This has been bugging me for quite a while, though ive never bothered asking since in the end they always fall in the hands of my party. now that im playing solo cleric/mage(starting to get boring, and im only 14/13 leveled) and im just wondering, why at some point all spells get the "spell ineffective" thingie, while at some point spells work just fine. I can probaply kill all liches in the game with my IMoD+2 and a few buffs, but id just like to know why this happens.

Thanks in advance

Dundee Slaytern · 05-08-2003, 10:19 AM

Two possible reasons.

1) The main one is that Liches are immuned to spells that are of level 5 and below. So casting a Magic Missile on them has no effect.

2) It had a Spell Immunity active, and your spell happens to be the school that it chose to be immuned to.

TaSSaDaR · 05-08-2003, 10:20 AM

Hmm.. Liches are immune to lvl1-5 spells AFAIK. And they may put on some buffs like Spell Trap/Deflection/Turning/Shield/etc which absorbs the spell. IMHO the message in log window for such absorptions is "Spell Ineffective". Try to dispell his anti-magic shields first and see what happens. But make sure to use high-level spells due to their immunity.

Raistlin Majere · 05-08-2003, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Two possible reasons.

1) The main one is that Liches are immuned to spells that are of level 5 and below. So casting a Magic Missile on them has no effect.

2) It had a Spell Immunity active, and your spell happens to be the school that it chose to be immuned to.

that explains it. i tried using fire arrow on the shade lich when he first appeared to make sure he just didnt cast some protections right away. now another question comes to mind; why in the nine hells do they cast globe of invulnerability through spell sequencer(or contingency)?!

Alson · 05-08-2003, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raistlin Majere:
now another question comes to mind; why in the nine hells do they cast globe of invulnerability through spell sequencer(or contingency)?!

Real Answer: Stupid AI - there's no reason whatsoever for a Lich to cast GoI.

In-Game Answer: Funky animation.

dragon_lord · 05-08-2003, 07:36 PM

You might be interested in looking at my Monster Immunities List. I only just started it, so i havnt done all the lichs yet.

Olorin · 05-08-2003, 07:52 PM

That's strange because I'm pretty sure that I have been able to hurt liches using Sunfire, which is only level 5. I noticed Fireballs never did anything, but Sunfire always did (except vs. demi-liches).

[ 05-08-2003, 07:53 PM: Message edited by: Olorin ]

05-08-2003, 10:13 AM	#1
Raistlin Majere Ra Join Date: March 26, 2002 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 2,323	This has been bugging me for quite a while, though ive never bothered asking since in the end they always fall in the hands of my party. now that im playing solo cleric/mage(starting to get boring, and im only 14/13 leveled) and im just wondering, why at some point all spells get the "spell ineffective" thingie, while at some point spells work just fine. I can probaply kill all liches in the game with my IMoD+2 and a few buffs, but id just like to know why this happens. Thanks in advance __________________ If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst forth at once in the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One. "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

05-08-2003, 10:20 AM	#3
TaSSaDaR Baaz Draconian Join Date: August 27, 2002 Location: Russia Age: 39 Posts: 734	Hmm.. Liches are immune to lvl1-5 spells AFAIK. And they may put on some buffs like Spell Trap/Deflection/Turning/Shield/etc which absorbs the spell. IMHO the message in log window for such absorptions is "Spell Ineffective". Try to dispell his anti-magic shields first and see what happens. But make sure to use high-level spells due to their immunity. __________________ En taro Adun!<br />En taro, mighty Tassadar!

05-08-2003, 07:36 PM	#6
dragon_lord Elminster Join Date: June 11, 2001 Location: Western Australia Age: 39 Posts: 407	You might be interested in looking at my Monster Immunities List. I only just started it, so i havnt done all the lichs yet. __________________ [img]\"http://unrealpowerhouse.ozforces.com.au/lich_des.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />[url]\"http://www.flatface.net/~itemsmart/\" target=\"_blank\">The Items Mart</a><br /><br />[url]\"http://www.flatface.net/~itemsmart/misc.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Monster Enchantments and Immunities List</a>

05-08-2003, 07:52 PM	#7
Olorin Avatar Join Date: May 27, 2002 Location: Boulder, CO Age: 48 Posts: 544	That's strange because I'm pretty sure that I have been able to hurt liches using Sunfire, which is only level 5. I noticed Fireballs never did anything, but Sunfire always did (except vs. demi-liches). [ 05-08-2003, 07:53 PM: Message edited by: Olorin ] __________________ "Many are my names in many countries. Mithrandir among the Elves, Tharkun to the Dwarves; Olorin I was in my youth in the West that is forgotten, in the South Incanus, in the North Gandalf; to the East I go not" --The Two Towers

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Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Two possible reasons. 1) The main one is that Liches are immuned to spells that are of level 5 and below. So casting a Magic Missile on them has no effect. 2) It had a Spell Immunity active, and your spell happens to be the school that it chose to be immuned to.

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