Beholders

Voltrath · 05-01-2003, 12:35 PM

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I hate beholders (you probably hate them too). Now i'm in underdark and i've got the cloak that reflects the spells, I entered the southern tunnels with lots of beholders. It was fun for a while - I didn't need to do anything and they would all die to their own spells reflected back to them. But then... one of those big ones casted imprisonment! How can you defend from that? It seems impossible - from what I know you need either spell trap or freedom, but I don't have either and even if i did I wouldn't be able to cast it yet. Normaly I wouldn't let him cast it soon enough, but there are so many of them atacking all at once. So what do you sugest against imprisonment?

RoryD · 05-01-2003, 12:46 PM

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The Slayer cannot be imprisoned, neither can a charactor with Barbarian rage on. There might be a Spell Immunity, too, but I'm not sure.

Rataxes · 05-01-2003, 12:48 PM

Imprisonment can only be cast at melee range (ignore Kangaxx, he casts a different version), and you can thus avoid it by keeping a distance to these Elder Orbs, use a bow or other ranged weapon coupled with the Boots of speed and it should be easy enough.

[ 05-01-2003, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ]

Captain SlackBladder · 05-01-2003, 12:49 PM

Spell Immunity - abjuration

Dundee Slaytern · 05-01-2003, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by RoryD:
~~ cannot be imprisoned, neither can a charactor with Barbarian rage on. ~~

I can see SixOfSpades frothing at the mouth now,

but just for your information. Only the Berserker's Rage grants immunity, not the Barbarian's Enrage.

Vedran · 05-01-2003, 04:02 PM

Minsc's Enrage ability doesn't work either.

SixOfSpades · 05-01-2003, 06:08 PM

*mumble* *mmmrphm* *mumble*
(can't type, frothing at the mouth)

Spell Immunity: Abjuration
Berserker Rage
Minsc's Berserk will protect him in some instances
Spell Trap
Shield of the Archons
Spell Turning
Spell Deflection
Invisibility + Non-Detection, perhaps?

Voltrath, if you need to wear the Cloak of Cheese to beat Beholders, then you can't beat Beholders. I realize that you're nowhere near as anal-retentive as I am about this sort of thing, but you're in the same position as a guy who just stole a car, and is complaining that the radio doesn't work.

Rataxes · 05-01-2003, 06:46 PM

Invisibility wont work. Only Elder Orbs and Hive Mothers can cast Imprisonment, and they see through invisibility anyway.

Wumpspawner · 05-01-2003, 10:18 PM

Just turn into a well-to-do neighborhood, and steal a new stereo for your stolen car.

Can't help you much with the beholders. They usually hand my ass back to me on a platter.

Assassin · 05-01-2003, 11:35 PM

Load up a SI: Necromancy (to protect versus the numerous Cause Wounds; IIRC, they are of the school Necromancy), Spell Shield (protects agaisnt Anti-Magic Rays without being cancelled out), SI: Abjuration (protects against Imprisonment), Free Action (Hold Person is annoying, even with your Save versus spells at 2), Stoneskin, Protection from Poison, Mirror Image, Death Ward, and a couple of other spells that I forgot to take on the Improved Beholders (from the Tactics mod).

Of course, this assumes taht you have some damage-dealing capability, with quite a few of your slots being taken up with buffs, you still have some damage-dealing spell-slots left. Sunfire, Flame Arrow, Skull Trap, and other high-damage spells work fine.

05-01-2003, 12:48 PM	#3
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	Imprisonment can only be cast at melee range (ignore Kangaxx, he casts a different version), and you can thus avoid it by keeping a distance to these Elder Orbs, use a bow or other ranged weapon coupled with the Boots of speed and it should be easy enough. [ 05-01-2003, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ] __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

05-01-2003, 04:02 PM	#6
Vedran Lord Soth Join Date: July 28, 2002 Location: Sisak, Croatia Age: 40 Posts: 1,930	Minsc's Enrage ability doesn't work either. __________________ Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, adhuc dulcius pro patria vivere. (It is sweet and glorius to die for one's homeland, even sweeter to live for it) Horatio

05-01-2003, 06:08 PM	#7
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	mumble mmmrphm mumble (can't type, frothing at the mouth) Spell Immunity: Abjuration Berserker Rage Minsc's Berserk will protect him in some instances Spell Trap Shield of the Archons Spell Turning Spell Deflection Invisibility + Non-Detection, perhaps? Voltrath, if you need to wear the Cloak of Cheese to beat Beholders, then you can't beat Beholders. I realize that you're nowhere near as anal-retentive as I am about this sort of thing, but you're in the same position as a guy who just stole a car, and is complaining that the radio doesn't work. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

05-01-2003, 06:46 PM	#8
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	Invisibility wont work. Only Elder Orbs and Hive Mothers can cast Imprisonment, and they see through invisibility anyway. __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

05-01-2003, 10:18 PM	#9
Wumpspawner Manshoon Join Date: September 25, 2002 Location: St. George, Utah Age: 49 Posts: 166	Just turn into a well-to-do neighborhood, and steal a new stereo for your stolen car. Can't help you much with the beholders. They usually hand my ass back to me on a platter. __________________ \"I\'m a simple man. All I want is enough sleep for two men, enough whiskey for three, and enough women for four.\" - Walter Slovotsky

05-01-2003, 12:35 PM	#1
Voltrath Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 17, 2003 Location: Geneva Age: 39 Posts: 44	Spoilers (maybe) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I hate beholders (you probably hate them too). Now i'm in underdark and i've got the cloak that reflects the spells, I entered the southern tunnels with lots of beholders. It was fun for a while - I didn't need to do anything and they would all die to their own spells reflected back to them. But then... one of those big ones casted imprisonment! How can you defend from that? It seems impossible - from what I know you need either spell trap or freedom, but I don't have either and even if i did I wouldn't be able to cast it yet. Normaly I wouldn't let him cast it soon enough, but there are so many of them atacking all at once. So what do you sugest against imprisonment?

05-01-2003, 12:46 PM	#2
RoryD Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: March 11, 2003 Location: England Age: 34 Posts: 29	SPOILERS ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' The Slayer cannot be imprisoned, neither can a charactor with Barbarian rage on. There might be a Spell Immunity, too, but I'm not sure.

05-01-2003, 12:49 PM	#4
Captain SlackBladder Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 27, 2002 Location: England Age: 56 Posts: 28	Spell Immunity - abjuration

05-01-2003, 11:35 PM	#10
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	Load up a SI: Necromancy (to protect versus the numerous Cause Wounds; IIRC, they are of the school Necromancy), Spell Shield (protects agaisnt Anti-Magic Rays without being cancelled out), SI: Abjuration (protects against Imprisonment), Free Action (Hold Person is annoying, even with your Save versus spells at 2), Stoneskin, Protection from Poison, Mirror Image, Death Ward, and a couple of other spells that I forgot to take on the Improved Beholders (from the Tactics mod). Of course, this assumes taht you have some damage-dealing capability, with quite a few of your slots being taken up with buffs, you still have some damage-dealing spell-slots left. Sunfire, Flame Arrow, Skull Trap, and other high-damage spells work fine. __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

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