Q about Shield of Archons

Leslie · 04-20-2003, 09:21 AM

If I understand correctly the spell description:

it should stop (absorb) spells which levels are equal (or lower) to half of the level of the priest.

So - if my cleric is level 18, that means that Shield of Archons could stop ONE imprisonment (level 9) ?

I'm trying to beat Kangaxx without THE SCROLL - but it doesn't look promising.
And I'm not using any summons at all - solo Cleric/Ranger.

Rataxes · 04-20-2003, 09:33 AM

Shield of the Archon works like Spell Deflection IIRC. The number of spell levels it will absorb before disappering is equal to half your cleric level. So a Shield of the Archon cast by a lvl 20 cleric will absorb 10 Magic Missiles or 3 Flame Arrows + 1 other spell (could be Imprisonment).

[ 04-20-2003, 09:37 AM: Message edited by: Rataxes ]

Leslie · 04-20-2003, 09:38 AM

And one Imprisonment ? No more ?

Since improved Kangaxx uses 5 or 6 of them in a Time Stop that would mean that I would have to be at least level 6*2*9 = 108 level cleric to stop them ?

Correct ?

Rataxes · 04-20-2003, 10:34 AM

At lvl 20 you can stop a grand total of 2 Imprisonments.

It is simply not the way to go vs Kangaxx

I frankly don't know what a solo R/C could do without resorting to the PfM scroll.

Alson · 04-20-2003, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rataxes:
... I frankly don't know what a solo R/C could do without resorting to the PfM scroll.

I'm tempted to say Pro-Undead scrolls... but I have a feeling i'm missing something.

Leslie · 04-20-2003, 12:34 PM

Improved Kangaxx loves to use Remove Magic if he doesn't "see" anything. Only PfM works. So I used the scroll for Kangaxx (is this cheese ?) and also for the other nasty lich in Docks. Interesting thing happened - you are not immune to Dragon fear even with PfM scroll. I actually died the first time because of the MMM. The second time I used Potion of Invulnerability and still got "frightened" once - my saving throws (spells) were -3 !

Rataxes · 04-20-2003, 12:42 PM

PfU does work. Sure Kangaxx will try to remove them as quickly as he can, but he still can't cast RM more than once per round. Meaning you'll get about 3 seconds per scroll. Get 20+ scrolls and it might actually be possible

PfM is definitely cheese, but really, it's the only weapon you have. Personally, I wouldn't give a rats ass whether it's cheese or not in your situation [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 04-20-2003, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ]

Alson · 04-20-2003, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rataxes:
PfU does work. Sure Kangaxx will try to remove them as quickly as he can, but he still can't cast RM more than once per round. Meaning you'll get about 3 seconds per scroll. Get 20+ scrolls and it might actually be possible

20 rounds?! Is there a new "be-fair-to-your-enemies" policy i'm not aware of? [img]tongue.gif[/img] If it takes you 20 rounds to beat him, you're doing something wrong.

Rataxes · 04-20-2003, 01:41 PM

Now that you mention it, you do get 20 rounds, but what I forgot is that it is Kangaxx, not you, who'll have 3 free seconds to do whatever he wants with you, until you can cast another PfU.

3 secs is far more than he needs to Imprison you so, stick with the PfM scroll

[ 04-20-2003, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ]

Alson · 04-20-2003, 02:03 PM

Told ya I was missing something. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

04-20-2003, 09:21 AM	#1
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	If I understand correctly the spell description: it should stop (absorb) spells which levels are equal (or lower) to half of the level of the priest. So - if my cleric is level 18, that means that Shield of Archons could stop ONE imprisonment (level 9) ? I'm trying to beat Kangaxx without THE SCROLL - but it doesn't look promising. And I'm not using any summons at all - solo Cleric/Ranger. __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

04-20-2003, 09:33 AM	#2
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	Shield of the Archon works like Spell Deflection IIRC. The number of spell levels it will absorb before disappering is equal to half your cleric level. So a Shield of the Archon cast by a lvl 20 cleric will absorb 10 Magic Missiles or 3 Flame Arrows + 1 other spell (could be Imprisonment). [ 04-20-2003, 09:37 AM: Message edited by: Rataxes ] __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

04-20-2003, 09:38 AM	#3
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	And one Imprisonment ? No more ? Since improved Kangaxx uses 5 or 6 of them in a Time Stop that would mean that I would have to be at least level 629 = 108 level cleric to stop them ? Correct ? __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

04-20-2003, 10:34 AM	#4
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	At lvl 20 you can stop a grand total of 2 Imprisonments. It is simply not the way to go vs Kangaxx I frankly don't know what a solo R/C could do without resorting to the PfM scroll. __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

04-20-2003, 12:34 PM	#6
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 53 Posts: 737	Improved Kangaxx loves to use Remove Magic if he doesn't "see" anything. Only PfM works. So I used the scroll for Kangaxx (is this cheese ?) and also for the other nasty lich in Docks. Interesting thing happened - you are not immune to Dragon fear even with PfM scroll. I actually died the first time because of the MMM. The second time I used Potion of Invulnerability and still got "frightened" once - my saving throws (spells) were -3 ! __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

04-20-2003, 12:42 PM	#7
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	PfU does work. Sure Kangaxx will try to remove them as quickly as he can, but he still can't cast RM more than once per round. Meaning you'll get about 3 seconds per scroll. Get 20+ scrolls and it might actually be possible PfM is definitely cheese, but really, it's the only weapon you have. Personally, I wouldn't give a rats ass whether it's cheese or not in your situation [img]tongue.gif[/img] [ 04-20-2003, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ] __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

04-20-2003, 01:41 PM	#9
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	Now that you mention it, you do get 20 rounds, but what I forgot is that it is Kangaxx, not you, who'll have 3 free seconds to do whatever he wants with you, until you can cast another PfU. 3 secs is far more than he needs to Imprison you so, stick with the PfM scroll [ 04-20-2003, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ] __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

04-20-2003, 02:03 PM	#10
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