clerics suck

[Djinn Raffo]

Raise Dead is only reason to speak up for them.

[Grojlach]

Or Resurrection, Chaotic Commands, Turn Undead (!), Heal and many, many other useful spells and abilities.
What exactly is it that you don't like about them?

[ezekill]

Clerics are shit boring to be, but you really do need one in your party for healing and protective spells

[Grojlach]

I agree about them being slightly boring to play... But in the end, it depends on you yourself how boring it really is, no? But I have to admit I never had any personal interest in playing a cleric protagonist... About the only class I've never played.

[Gandalf the White]

They only strong spell caster is a mage. I´d like to see a cleric stand up to power word death and flame arrow, or that spell with the death scull in in when your body fluid gets drain or something (damn... what is the name of that spell)

[Djinn Raffo]

it is some brain sucking spell for sure and no cleric can stand up to it. No..
Like Grojlach says it depends on you for the boring part.. and i'm playing one right now and is not so boring because i am having more fun playing Korgan and Keldorn and Anomen.. were hunting around in the sewers for the Hidden as well as earlier we heard a rumour that their was some Slavers and we cleaned em out of this pub in the Slums.. so might as well set the whole neighbourhood straight at some point and clean those dirty slavers out of the town. Even Korgan would nay trade in woman and child! Bah but I have Jaheira and Anomen as well as Aerie to. So it is a very righteous party.

Edit> Everyones always yapping about God this and God that.. Aerie is into some Halfing and Keldorn always having a Radiant Heart attack.. Now Anomen barking while filling in for Jan while we try to cure his lady friends situation...

[ 01-25-2003, 04:57 AM: Message edited by: Djinn Raffo ]

[NiceWorg]

I don´t know if you necessarily need a cleric in your party. If Aerie wouldn´t be cleric I would still keep her instead of Anomen, Jaheira, Cernd or Viconia. I say you can do without.

[Grojlach]

Originally posted by NiceWorg: I don´t know if you necessarily need a cleric in your party. If Aerie wouldn´t be cleric I would still keep her instead of Anomen, Jaheira, Cernd or Viconia. I say you can do without.

Depends on how you're playing. If you're soloing a sorcerer or monk, what in the world would you need a cleric for? But if you've got a lot of "weaker" party members to worry about, a cleric is almost inevitable to take along if you want to keep at least some fun in your game. There aren't always temples around to raise/resurrect your dead characters at, and to reload every time one of your party members dies doesn't really sound that appealing either.

[pcgiant]

Clerics suck?

Reasons why clerics are a worthwhile class:
1. They can raise dead and heal characters.
2. They can wear almost any armour.
3. They can wield most of the game's best weapons (FoA and Crom come to mind)
4. They can use shields.
5. They can cancel out spells such as confusion with Chaotic Commands.
6. They can protect themselves with Globe of Blades and not receive any melee damage if they have good enough armour.
7. They can tank effectively because of points 2, 3, 4, 6.
8. They have turn undead which makes meat out of undead, or allies them towards you. In ToB evil clerics can turn Paladins.
9. They can prepare your characters for battle with spells such as Bless and Chant.
10. They can Silence enemy casters with Silence 15' Radius.
11. They can cast spells such as Harm which reduces even dragons to 1HP.
12. They can imbue your characters with Magic Resistance with the spell of the same name.

I can continue on, but these show you that clerics are indeed far from useless, and can be very versatile characters if used correctly.

[Djinn Raffo]

pcgiant all that doesn't change the fact that they suck!

Well Jaheira's dead. Those bloody slavers had some trap in their lair you know and some kind of green death made her melt from the inside out. Portraits gone and all i have left of her is a lock of her hair.. Just when i thought i was going to get laid to..

Bah.. cleric is no substitute for a thief!