irenicus is not a pure mage......(spoiler)

dark soul · 01-01-2003, 05:35 AM

well a mage is suppose to be frail.....look at irenicus.....he is pumped....

after u beat him at hell for the last time...this movie appears.....well he wakes up and looks around....and all of a sudden these demons/devils appear....well when one of them attacked he flipped it over into the lava....then when more attack him and he uses his fist.....

so i think that irenicus is a monk/mage dude...what do u think?

dragon_lord · 01-01-2003, 06:06 AM

I would sure like to know why a mage has muscles THAT big. You dont get muscles like that from writing scrolls thats for sure.

Cerek the Barbaric · 01-01-2003, 06:26 AM

Where does it say that a mage has to be a skinny runt??? They can have a natural 18 in Str, Dex, or Con just like a fighter.

Khelben Blackstaff (of Forgotten Realms) is a good example of a powerful mage that is also relatively young and gifted with strong, physical stats.

slicer15 · 01-01-2003, 06:27 AM

Maybe he works out? [img]smile.gif[/img]

9_1_6 · 01-01-2003, 06:34 AM

Now would a skinny punny wunny looking character fit into the catagory of a nemesis??? I beleive not [img]smile.gif[/img]
Maybe he is a bit of a monk, but i doubt it [img]smile.gif[/img]

Raistlin Majere · 01-01-2003, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric:
Where does it say that a mage has to be a skinny runt??? They can have a natural 18 in Str, Dex, or Con just like a fighter.

Khelben Blackstaff (of Forgotten Realms) is a good example of a powerful mage that is also relatively young and gifted with strong, physical stats.

Also from the DragonLance books, theres that black sailor archmage of the white robes. from his discription, he doesnt seem to be a skinny a$$ sort of a mage.

Bardan the Slayer · 01-01-2003, 02:17 PM

It's stereotyping. Is everyone in the world who has a PhD a skinny couch potato? No - you get muscular, fit people who are also highly intelligent in RL, so i wouldn't think it's too hard to get them in the Realms too [img]smile.gif[/img]

drewal · 01-01-2003, 04:32 PM

Plus an extremely high level mage can still do some damage in melee - especially if they are wearing a girdle of strength.

A high level mage can whoop a low level fighter's but in melee, so they aren't necessarily weaklings.

Consider Gandalf in LOTR - watch his fight with the demon - and he's an old man - classic scene by the way.

Sir Exxon · 01-01-2003, 05:04 PM

Well, remeber that he is an exiled Elf from Suldanessellar. Who knows what his profession used to be.
And, when he got exiled, he became corrupted by hate and wanting revenge. He wanted to become godly powerful. Something tells me that he did more than just reading.

Bardan the Slayer · 01-01-2003, 09:39 PM

His occupation was "chief mage" of the elves, or something. he was "as powerful as a mortal mage could be without divine intervention". IIRC, Ellesime tells us this [img]smile.gif[/img]

01-01-2003, 06:06 AM	#2
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01-01-2003, 06:26 AM	#3
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01-01-2003, 06:34 AM	#5
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01-01-2003, 02:17 PM	#7
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01-01-2003, 04:32 PM	#8
drewal Drow Warrior Join Date: January 8, 2002 Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 47 Posts: 272	Plus an extremely high level mage can still do some damage in melee - especially if they are wearing a girdle of strength. A high level mage can whoop a low level fighter's but in melee, so they aren't necessarily weaklings. Consider Gandalf in LOTR - watch his fight with the demon - and he's an old man - classic scene by the way. __________________ This is going to be a short trip...

01-01-2003, 05:35 AM	#1
dark soul The Magister Join Date: November 28, 2002 Location: USA Age: 37 Posts: 119	well a mage is suppose to be frail.....look at irenicus.....he is pumped.... after u beat him at hell for the last time...this movie appears.....well he wakes up and looks around....and all of a sudden these demons/devils appear....well when one of them attacked he flipped it over into the lava....then when more attack him and he uses his fist..... so i think that irenicus is a monk/mage dude...what do u think?

01-01-2003, 06:27 AM	#4
slicer15 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 12, 2002 Location: Banstead, Southeast England Age: 38 Posts: 1,162	Maybe he works out? [img]smile.gif[/img]

01-01-2003, 05:04 PM	#9
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	Well, remeber that he is an exiled Elf from Suldanessellar. Who knows what his profession used to be. And, when he got exiled, he became corrupted by hate and wanting revenge. He wanted to become godly powerful. Something tells me that he did more than just reading.

01-01-2003, 09:39 PM	#10
Bardan the Slayer Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: August 16, 2002 Location: Newcastle, England Age: 46 Posts: 699	His occupation was "chief mage" of the elves, or something. he was "as powerful as a mortal mage could be without divine intervention". IIRC, Ellesime tells us this [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ <br />[url]\"http://www.the-silver-river.com\" target=\"_blank\">Admin and Co-Owner of The Silver River!</a><br />[url]\"http://www.the-silver-river.com/Photo%20Album/Reeka.html\" target=\"_blank\">SMNOOOOOOCH!</a> You know who it\'s meant for <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Wink]\" src=\"wink.gif\" />

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