Using Ascension Patch-How do get Balthazar

[Dakkon Darkblade]

I know all the requirements i. e. attributes and allignment, yet i just can't get the dialogue right. Does anyone know the sequence? (you just have to tell me the numbers)

[daan]

Dunno the numbers, but you have to question his actions .. make him understand that what he did wasnt right either. And then, when he's hesitating, pop the question [img]smile.gif[/img]
Just try to put everything you did and he did in perspective, those should be the right options.

[Dakkon Darkblade]

Thanks, but I still can't seem to get it, I can get him to kill himself and attack me but that's it

[daan]

Hmm, that's weird ...he should only want to kill himself if you're evil and choose certain answers. I'm really close to Balthazar now, but I have a test-week at school ( a whole week of learning and exams, YAY ! ),...

Try looking at walk-throughs, and I'll try to figure the answers out A.S.A.P., but that might be a little long for you i think,

[daan]

CTRL-Y'd my way to Balthazar, but the dialogue is severely bugged
As a response i get to choose one of 5 names of the weapons that the Sola-mod introduces into the game .. it then gives me its stats in the dialogue box and suddenly Balthazar is saying a line Irenicus used in the Hell-battle.
We then each say a line that irenicus said in the final-solamod- hellbattle untill nothing can be chosen anymore.
At that point I'm stuck and just wait untill the control of the chars. gets back to me and Balthazar's turned enemy

[daan]

Allright .. I HAVE THE ANSWERS !!!
Replaced my dialogue.tlk again, and it works like a charm.
[img]graemlins/shine.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/happydance.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/1djsmile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/happydance.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/shine.gif[/img]

He will join you group if you're any form of Good or neutral;
lawfull, chaotic or neutral.
If you're evil you can talk him into commiting suicide ( more on this later ).

Numbers you need to choose in chronological order from up to down :
( sometimes there's only one option, which i then still call -1- )

2
2
3
2
1
1
2
3
1
2
1
1
2
1
1

+ optional -1-
( this last nr.1 is for evil-aligments only and makes him commit suicide,.. good and neutral characters don't get to pick another answer, since Balthazar's allready joined )

Have fun
P.s. Make sure your wand of resurection is fully charged, Balthazar tends to throw himself at the enemy, and the Wand of resurection heals him real nice.
( dont wait till he's dead to " revive " him, reviving him while still alive gets him full health)

[ 10-15-2002, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: daan ]

[Dakkon Darkblade]

Thanks a lot man i'll try it out, but there may still be a problem with my allignment it might think i'm evil for some reason i'll have to look in to that.

[Dakkon Darkblade]

Well that's crap, the game thinks evil but i'm not, and Shadowkeeper can't even fix it. Guess I'll just have to do without. Anyways thanks a lot for your time.

[masteraleph]

Dakkon-
that happens when you fail one of the hell tests at the end of SOA. If you a)killed the dragon rather than talking to it, b) took the cloak of nymph skins, c) killed the genie, d) allowed your NPC to die, or e)gave into your anger with Sarevok, you'll become NE (unless you're already CE or NE).

[daan]

Though shadowkeeper should fix it .. I used shadowkeeper to create 9 of the same saves ( just before talking to Balthazar), but with the Main char.'s Aligment different every time.
With me, it worked just fine .. join-response to good an neutral and suicide-response to evil.
All i can suggest is replace the dialogue.tlk file, with exactly the same dialogue.tlk file, just overwrite it with a freshly downloaded one.
Balthazar's conversation hasn't ever gone right the first time in my games, replacing the dialogue.tlk worked every time.