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01-21-2009, 12:22 AM
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Jack Burton
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1e Barbarian
Has anyone played or DMed a barbarian? They seem of limited use to me. And a bit ridiculous - at level 8 and above they can call a barbarian horde...
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01-21-2009, 09:18 AM
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Horus - Egyptian Sky God
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Re: 1e Barbarian
Nope - I dunno, I never really liked 'em.
 I haven't even played one in any of the D&D-related games that I have that have barbarians (Baldur's Gate 2, Temple of Elemental Evil). 12 hp/level is also quite a lot, I think (if monsters get only 8).
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01-21-2009, 11:47 AM
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Jack Burton
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Re: 1e Barbarian
I've never played one either. I don't think I've been in any pen and paper games where they were even allowed.
So, I guess that limits my playing one, but I wouldn't have chosen it any way.I've always operated under the rule that being a barbarian is like being any other nationality, like a Thayan or Cormyrian. Perhaps the best known barbarian in the Forgotten Realms is Wulfgar who was raised a barbarian, but had the class of fighter. |
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01-21-2009, 07:54 PM
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Horus - Egyptian Sky God
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Re: 1e Barbarian
The Realms (from 2e on) had no "barbarians" as a class anymore, which is why Wulfgar was a fighter, I think.
In Greyhawk and 1e Realms, there were specific regions from which barbarians came from, I think... I forget the particular names, though. But anyway - barbarians were kind of stupid...  Still, including them for completeness is still a nice idea. (Along with the unfairly-strong cavaliers)
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01-21-2009, 08:11 PM
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Jack Burton
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Re: 1e Barbarian
Wulfgar started in 1e, but maybe because the novels were setting up for 2e.
I agree about inclusion for barbarians and cavaliers. Using Unearthed Arcana changes the paladin quite a bit, too. They are essentially super cavaliers. |
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01-21-2009, 09:09 PM
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Dungeon Master
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Re: 1e Barbarian
I played a barbarian in Baldur's Gate II (which is *mostly* 2e)....they just had different prefs and armor limitations, etc.
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01-21-2009, 09:21 PM
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Jack Burton
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Re: 1e Barbarian
The "barbarians" in 2e were a kit for fighters. They weren't as ridiculous as 1e barbarians, they were more a back-story or reasons for certain proficiencies.
Was Baldur's Gate II the last 2e game? Or was Icewind Dale II the last 2e game? Where's a wiki when you need one. 
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01-21-2009, 10:20 PM
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Horus - Egyptian Sky God
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Re: 1e Barbarian
I think it was Icewind Dale I that was last? I forget.
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01-21-2009, 10:26 PM
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Jack Burton
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Re: 1e Barbarian
Well, it can't be Icewind Dale I, that would be silly.
Perhaps you meant "II"?
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01-22-2009, 01:03 AM
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Dungeon Master
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Re: 1e Barbarian
Icewind Dale II was 3rd ed, so BG2 was probably the last 2nd ed (or 2.5 ed as some people call it) game.
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