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Old 07-03-2003, 04:53 AM   #1
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Italian's Sharp Tongue Punctures Image of United Europe


By RICHARD BERNSTEIN
BERLIN, July 2 — Stung by criticism, the Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, suggested today to a German member of the European Parliament that he would make an excellent leader of a Nazi concentration camp.
The remark, made on the day after Mr. Berlusconi took over the rotating presidency of the European Union, enraged the German Socialist, Martin Schulz, set off a diplomatic furor and suggested that the swashbuckling Italian leader might produce more division than reconciliation in a Europe grappling with several difficult issues.
Those issues include adoption of a new constitution as the 15-member union expands next year to 25 members, and relations with the United States, which were frayed by the bitter debates leading up to the Iraq war. Mr. Berlusconi has stood far closer to President Bush than the German and French leaders.
Mr. Berlusconi, whose combative, bristling style and control of much of the Italian media have made him a controversial figure across the Continent, was giving a routine inaugural policy speech today to the European Parliament in Strasbourg, France, when Mr. Schulz questioned his suitability for his new post.
The German legislator specifically raised Mr. Berlusconi's sponsorship of a new immunity law in Italy at a time when he is on trial in Milan on bribery charges.
"Mr. Schulz," Mr. Berlusconi said in reply, cocking his head to one side and smiling, "I know there is a man in Italy producing a film on the Nazi concentration camps. I would like to suggest you for the role of leader. You would be perfect."
In response, Mr. Schulz said: "Mr. Berlusconi, if I understood him correctly, invited me to appear as the commandant of a concentration camp." He went on to say it was very hard for him to accept that someone capable of such a remark should lead the European Union.
Italy's ambassador in Berlin and Germany's ambassador in Rome were summoned by their host governments to receive formal protests. Germany quickly issued a statement labeling Mr. Berlusconi's remark unacceptable.
But for the European Union, the deeper significance may be as an augury of what lies ahead during the six months of Mr. Berlusconi's presidency.
"The incident and resulting breakdown hang in the air," the daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung commented as news of Mr. Berlusconi's exchange with Mr. Schulz began rocketing through Europe. "If the coming months are only occupied with dumb provocations and vain character assassination, it is going to be difficult to move forward the European project. Being reasonable is not everybody's thing."
The greeting Mr. Berlusconi got in the parliamentary hall even before the exchange with Mr. Schulz presaged the polarizing effect many believe he will have.
Placards held aloft by leftist legislators read, in several languages, "Nobody is above the law" and "No Godfather for Europe."
Even before the session, Mr. Berlusconi's assumption of the union presidency had received enormous media attention in Europe, most of it unfavorable.
The most persistent charge, made for years, has to do with conflict of interest. As Italy's biggest media entrepreneur — he owns the country's biggest publishing house and three national television stations — Mr. Berlusconi has been widely accused in his own country of using his political power to favor legislation beneficial to his business interests.
Two weeks ago, Mr. Berlusconi's political allies in the Italian Parliament passed a law that exempts the top five serving government officials, including the prime minister, from criminal prosecution. The adoption of the law put a stop to the trial of Mr. Berlusconi, already under way in Milan, though the court holding the trial has challenged the constitutionality of the legislation.
In addition to being the first sitting Italian prime minister to testify as a defendant in a criminal case, Mr. Berlusconi has aroused the ire of the European left by his open admiration for President Bush and by his support of the Iraq war. His relations with some European leaders, particularly Gerhard Schröder of Germany and Jacques Chirac of France, are said to be very tense.
But while in the past Mr. Berlusconi has mostly been an issue for Italians, who have twice elected him prime minister, the prospect of Italy's presidency of the European Union sharply ratcheted up the negative views in the European press.
The cover story in Der Spiegel on Monday showed a picture of Mr. Berlusconi with the caption, "The Godfather," and contained this comment: "At home he dismantles justice, subjugates television and has laws tailored to his needs, and now he will represent Europe."
The Economist, which before his electoral victory in Italy two years ago ran an article titled, "Unfit to Lead Italy," more recently ran another with the headline, "Unfit to Lead Europe."
To counter the negative attention he has been getting, Mr. Berlusconi published a letter today in four newspapers in Italy, Germany, France and Spain in which he shot back at his critics. "No one is in a position to give lessons in morality to a government elected by the Italians," he wrote.
Mr. Berlusconi refused to retract his comment to Mr. Schulz, saying it was meant in an ironic way.
"It was the way in which he spoke," Mr. Berlusconi later said of Mr. Schulz. "It was his gestures. He attacked me and was extremely offensive about me and my country. I replied to his insults ironically with a joke."
Source: New York Times


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Old 07-03-2003, 05:47 AM   #2
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Yeah I just read about that on the Net. What a complete and utter idiot. I hope there will be some retributions for this behavior! The man shuold by a dictionary and look up the word irony.
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Old 07-03-2003, 06:42 AM   #3
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It isn't for nothing that his official spokesman has been renamed 'the misspokesman from the office of retractions' - all he's doing is trying to smooth over the rows that break out every time Berlusconi open his mouth.

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Old 07-03-2003, 09:27 AM   #4
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Exactly what i expected from the EU, we can get along sooooo well.

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Old 07-03-2003, 09:38 AM   #5
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I think it's great. Imagine someone having the nerve to call a German a nazi. Only the leftist Germans are allowed to call others that.
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Old 07-03-2003, 09:44 AM   #6
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I think it's great. Imagine someone having the nerve to call a German a nazi. Only the leftist Germans are allowed to call others that.
Yeah, but the one who said it, is as close as it gets to neo fascisme. It's the story of the famous pot and kettle.
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Old 07-03-2003, 10:25 AM   #7
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I think it's great. Imagine someone having the nerve to call a German a nazi. Only the leftist Germans are allowed to call others that.
Excuse me??? What does that have to do with nerves? Why should one call a person nazi only because he is a German? I hope I misunderstood this and hence overreacted.

Edit: I doubt that the German politicain in question sympathizes with the nazi movements. AFAIK most German seriously frown upon such coalitions nowadays.

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Old 07-03-2003, 11:14 AM   #8
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Heard this on the radio on the way home last night. I think this provides a perfect example of the power the nazi label still has in the Europe and why invoking it in a casual fashion is in bad taste.
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Old 07-03-2003, 12:04 PM   #9
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What the European papers say
What the Italian papers say
Schröder calls for Berlusconi apology
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Old 07-03-2003, 12:43 PM   #10
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The German should be compared to a nazi. He was doing what so many leftists seem to excell at, and that is believeing that if you are on the right you are some kind of monster. Just look at Johnny. Since Berlusconi is on the right, according to him, he must be a fascist. I havn't seen the guy marching around in a black uniform leading a bunch of goons around to martial music.

And when you get down to it, the Italian fascists were a joke.
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