How much of Watcher's Keep before Chapter 7?

Klorox · 10-08-2004, 11:09 AM

Hey everybody. I'm playing a game now, and I'm in Chapter 6 still. I'm just finishing up every last quest here in Athkatla and the surrounding areas.

I've never gone farther than this in my games before.

I want to know: Am I better off doing Watcher's Keep now, or should I move on to Chapter 7 and then do it?

I know about the "Big Brother S" NPC, and I do not plan on adding him to my party. I know "when to do Watcher's Keep" can play into this equation, so I thought I'd make a note of it.

After doing every quest in Chapter 6, am I properly prepared for Watcher's Keep? I'd like to add it's goodies to my inventory and have a better shot against Irenicus, but I need to know if I have a decent chance at it. Please advise me.

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 10-08-2004, 11:15 AM

Go right ahead. You can do at least the first few floors... and you'll find some useful items. Two containers come *immediately* to mind.

Ivelliis · 10-08-2004, 11:17 AM

some items may be upgradeable by a certain butler, but I think you need to get into the ToB bit for that to be available [img]smile.gif[/img]

Klorox · 10-14-2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
Go right ahead. You can do at least the first few floors... and you'll find some useful items. Two containers come *immediately* to mind.

Care to spoil me?

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 10-15-2004, 01:15 AM

Miniscule spoilers...
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A potion case and ammo belt. Astoundingly useful.

SimDing0 · 10-15-2004, 06:06 AM

I'm told that NPC interjections don't show up if you play through WK in SoA.

Zarr · 10-15-2004, 11:48 AM

I like to do all Watchers Keep in SOA. The lower levels can be quite hard but you get some good items earlier than you would if you do it in TOB. Beware though if you do Watchers Keep in chapter 6 the rest of SOA will be very easy due to the experience levels of your party.

Irenicus: Curse you Aballister!(The name of my current player character). I will not be defeated by you!
Aballister: Casts Dragons Breath
Irenicus: death
Aballister: "You were saying"?

krunchyfrogg · 10-15-2004, 05:22 PM

Alright, I'll give it a go!

I've done every quest in Chapter 6 (at least all that I know of), and I've already got that Dragon's Breath!

I'm just waiting for Jaheira's romance to come to a conclusion (I heard it won't progress after chapter 6). I guess I'll peek my head out of the keep every hour or so.

Neomi · 10-15-2004, 06:16 PM

I have also heard that the difficulty of some of the encounters (and thus their XP value) is scaled to the experience of the group. So if you go to WK too soon you may actually miss out on some XP (and maybe loot) that you would have otherwise collected later in the game.

I generally avoid going too deep into the Keep from the SOA side, maybe just one or two levels. Then during TOB I try to finish one level in between each of the major quests in order to keep the game from being too linear.

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 10-16-2004, 03:39 PM

This is a valid point... I remember that if you're too low a level for a certain encounter you'll miss out on a valuable piece of loot. Perhaps somebody knows the minimum level that triggers this encounter.

10-08-2004, 11:09 AM	#1
Klorox Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 21, 2004 Location: USA Age: 49 Posts: 1,168	Hey everybody. I'm playing a game now, and I'm in Chapter 6 still. I'm just finishing up every last quest here in Athkatla and the surrounding areas. I've never gone farther than this in my games before. I want to know: Am I better off doing Watcher's Keep now, or should I move on to Chapter 7 and then do it? I know about the "Big Brother S" NPC, and I do not plan on adding him to my party. I know "when to do Watcher's Keep" can play into this equation, so I thought I'd make a note of it. After doing every quest in Chapter 6, am I properly prepared for Watcher's Keep? I'd like to add it's goodies to my inventory and have a better shot against Irenicus, but I need to know if I have a decent chance at it. Please advise me. __________________ Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."-- Edmund Burke

10-08-2004, 11:15 AM	#2
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	Go right ahead. You can do at least the first few floors... and you'll find some useful items. Two containers come immediately to mind. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

10-08-2004, 11:17 AM	#3
Ivelliis Gold Dragon Join Date: August 6, 2004 Location: North East England Age: 35 Posts: 2,561	some items may be upgradeable by a certain butler, but I think you need to get into the ToB bit for that to be available [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________

10-15-2004, 01:15 AM	#5
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	Miniscule spoilers... . . . . A potion case and ammo belt. Astoundingly useful. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

10-15-2004, 11:48 AM	#7
Zarr Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 19, 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 41 Posts: 1,330	I like to do all Watchers Keep in SOA. The lower levels can be quite hard but you get some good items earlier than you would if you do it in TOB. Beware though if you do Watchers Keep in chapter 6 the rest of SOA will be very easy due to the experience levels of your party. Irenicus: Curse you Aballister!(The name of my current player character). I will not be defeated by you! Aballister: Casts Dragons Breath Irenicus: death Aballister: "You were saying"? __________________ Minsc - \"Don\'t ask questions better left to aged sages\"<br /><br />\"You must gather your party before venturing forth\". BANG shoots him dead

10-15-2004, 06:06 AM	#6
SimDing0 Dungeon Master Join Date: January 21, 2004 Location: UK Age: 38 Posts: 73	I'm told that NPC interjections don't show up if you play through WK in SoA.

10-15-2004, 05:22 PM	#8
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 49 Posts: 1,516	Alright, I'll give it a go! I've done every quest in Chapter 6 (at least all that I know of), and I've already got that Dragon's Breath! I'm just waiting for Jaheira's romance to come to a conclusion (I heard it won't progress after chapter 6). I guess I'll peek my head out of the keep every hour or so. __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-15-2004, 06:16 PM	#9
Neomi Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 28, 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 53 Posts: 312	I have also heard that the difficulty of some of the encounters (and thus their XP value) is scaled to the experience of the group. So if you go to WK too soon you may actually miss out on some XP (and maybe loot) that you would have otherwise collected later in the game. I generally avoid going too deep into the Keep from the SOA side, maybe just one or two levels. Then during TOB I try to finish one level in between each of the major quests in order to keep the game from being too linear. __________________ \"Though we name the things we know, we do not necessarily know the things we name.\" -Homer W. Smith

10-16-2004, 03:39 PM	#10
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 39 Posts: 4,673	This is a valid point... I remember that if you're too low a level for a certain encounter you'll miss out on a valuable piece of loot. Perhaps somebody knows the minimum level that triggers this encounter. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

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