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Old 04-12-2004, 03:13 PM   #1
Illumina Drathiran'ar
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This will probably be a cleric kit. It relies a bit more on combat than the other cleric kits, and also addresses problems that I have with the weapon system. This is what I have so far. Things that I'm considering will be in parenthesis:
Adept of Eilistraee
"Be always kind, except in battle with evil. Encourage happiness everywhere. Learn and teach new songs, dances, and the flowing dance of skilled swordwork. Promote harmony between the races. Befriend strangers, shelter those without homes, and feed the hungry. Repay rudeness with kindness. Repay violence with swift violence so that those who cause it are quickly dealt with. Aid drow in distress and give them the Lady's message: 'A rightful place awaits you in the Realms Above, in the Land of the Great Light. Come in peace and live beneath the sun again where trees and flowers grow.'"
Whenever and wherever possible, faithful of Eilistraee encourage drow to return to the surface world. They work to promote harmony between drow as rightful, nonegil inhabitants of Faerun. They nurture beauty, music, the craft of making musical instruments, and song wherever they find it; assist hunters and hunting; and help others in acts of kindness whenever they see ways to do so. Clerics are expected to be skilled in hunting and in playing at least one of the Dark Maiden's favored instruments (Horn, flute, or harp). They must be adequate singers as well as fit, graceful dancers. Theygather songs and musical knowledge constantly, and acquire training in the use of the sword when they can.
Alignment: NG, CG, CN
Races: Elf, Half-Elf
Benefits:
Can put two (Three?) points into Longswords, Bastard Swords, (Two-Weapon Style?) and Single Weapon Style.
Stat requirements: 14 Dex, 14 Wis, 14 Cha

Gain the spells Lower Resistance, Dimension Door, Teleport Field, Call Lightning, (Iron Skins?) (Considering Planetars... Clerics of Eilistraee get the Portal domain, and should have something better than a Deva to call.)
Feats/HLAs: I'm considering giving them Whirlwind Attack and Magic Flute.
Custom abilities:

Maiden's Sword
At a level to be determined later, the character can craft their own sword. The ability will grow stronger.
There will be three versions of this spell. One will create a +2 (Either longsword or bastard sword, I haven't decided yet) blade, the next +4, then +5, then as a HLA it will be +5 and have the ability to cast Critical Strike, and perhaps grant an extra attack per round. I'm also considering bonuses against evil creatures.

Eilistraee's Song
For three minutes, once per day, the party gains an attack bonus and 10 MR.

Disadvantages:
Can only wear leather armor and elven chain. Followers of Eilistraee do not wear restrictive armor or clothing.
Can not use shields, bracers, or helmets. See above.
Can not use maces, morningstars, flails, or hammers. These are not elven weapons, and Eilistraee encourages use of the blade, so that's where this class will focus. I figure if I'm going to give clerics some weapons, I'm going to have to take away others.
Can not cast the following spells: Animate Dead, Unholy Blight, Unholy Word, Summon Fallen Deva, Gate, Finger of Death, Inflict wounds, Harm. These are not good-aligned spells.
(Considering lowering Cha, or perhaps reactions. Followers of Eilistraee are generally misunderstood and not trusted.)

Comments? Suggestions? I think much of this is doable. Do you think it's balanced enough?
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Old 04-12-2004, 03:31 PM   #2
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I like it. Well rounded. In theme and character.

What about Scimitars? Plenty of fine Elven Scimitars exist in the world. Look at Elhann...

Would be a great kit.

I can't remember who, but one of the old Elven Cleric kits gains vanilla bard abilities, including pick pockets and bard song. I can't remember if it's Eilistraee or not. Probably not possible in SoA. Same kit also got a bonus to their turn undead abilities, as Undead are a total abomination to the Immortal Elves. (Makes Bhodi rather interesting)
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Old 04-12-2004, 03:48 PM   #3
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I'm also considering making it a bard class, yes, maybe even using some of the Blade's abilities. I don't know how I'd give them TI bonuses unless I gave their blades bonuses against undead.
And yes, there are fine elven scimitars, but the favored weapon of Eilistraee is the bastard sword, and the longsword is the quintissential elven weapon, so I'm more or less sticking to those two. I might even use just bastard swords. That would be easier to work out what type the enchanted blade becomes.
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Old 04-12-2004, 04:14 PM   #4
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I never knew you were a modder, Illumina? Nonetheless, this is a great kit. It seems very much balanced. AFAIK, there aren't many enchanted bastard swords, so I think just using bastard swords would make them seem 'special' in a way. The background sounds very interesting and well thought out. And I agree that the summons should be planetars - only seems fair, right?

Can't wait for this to be released!
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Old 04-12-2004, 04:49 PM   #5
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Well, Elves get a bonus from all long sword classed weapons, and, in PnP, bastards and scimitars were long sword classed weapons, all using the same coverage.

In SoA, the Bastard is a class all of it's self, and, Elves get no racial bonuses for it. Which stinks.

And I was right, Clerics of Eilistraee DO get vanilla bard abilities with both pick pockets and bard song as special abilities. Is it possible to place bard song into a cleric's special abilities tab? They must also meet all the minimum requirements of bard class as far as stats go, so they would have Int, Dex, Chr, as well as Wis as prime stats.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:24 PM   #6
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I don't think it's possible to put a bardsong on the cleric's tab, which is why I put in Eilistraee's Song.
As for Pick Pockets... It's not in the Sword Dancer prestige class, and I really don't see a need for a follower of Eilistraee to have an ability like that.

And I'm not a real modder per se... I worked on a mod project some time ago, and I know how to use TeamBG's modding tools, but this will be my first solo project. I've already begun work, but I wanted everyone's opinion before I dove in.
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:13 AM   #7
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Dead easy fix on the weapon crafting.. (btw hope it's a long casting time 10+ or so)

You make the spell add a speacail ablity's tab, with the choices, Make B*** sword, make Longsword, it's not much more work than just a spell to create the item..

Hell you could make it an ablity that add's the ablity to choose, upon choosing it removes your ablity to craft the weapon as well (yes you can remove ablitys permantly after use)

I'd suggest making the song ablity replace itself after it's cast, but have a long casting time or an unresistable hold effect on self after casting for the duration to represent the char singing and playing and so on..
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:43 AM   #8
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I like it! According to 3rd edition D&D, Ellistrae's preferred weapon is the Bastard Sword. I'd have this kit only gain bonuses with them.
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Old 04-13-2004, 03:18 AM   #9
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No, I'd have the song limited use... Once per day, maybe twice, maybe add it later.

As for crafting the sword, I'm thinking along the lines of the Use Any Item HLA you get in ToB... A spell cast upon leveling up.

And the Maiden's Sword will be a bastard sword, I have decided, but I'll also allow slots and usage of Longsword.
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Old 04-13-2004, 03:24 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
And the Maiden's Sword will be a bastard sword, I have decided, but I'll also allow slots and usage of Longsword.
You might find that difficult - a weapon can only have one profficiency type.
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