Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting

Dalamar Stormcrow · 12-25-2003, 10:43 AM

Why does the wording for the spell, Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting, slower, is it like a warning to bolt and get the hell out of there?

And why is Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting posted under a Necromancy type spell????

Good Luck finding out [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Lord · 12-25-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Dalamar Stormcrow:
Why does the wording for the spell, Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting, slower, is it like a warning to bolt and get the hell out of there?

And why is Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting posted under a Necromancy type spell????

Good Luck finding out [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Well let's see:

It's not an illusion, no doubt about that

.
It's not evocation/invocation: it's not a stationary spell (although it sort of looks like it when you cast it), the caster is not calling upon their God to help them out, and the caster is not creating materials (like Melf's Acid Arrows) to shoot at his/her enemies.
It's not abjuration because it's not a protection spell.
It's not alteration because, well, I don't know why. I'd think it could possibly be this since it changes the condition of a creature.
It's not enchantment/charm b/c it's not changing a character's attitude (unless he dies from it [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) and it doesn't give magical properties to items.
It's not divination because the caster is not learning hidden secrets.

Which leaves Necromancy. It could be necromancy because it deals with the vitality of living creatures, like many of the other spells. But it's affect mathes no other class except necromancy and alteration.

Haldir · 12-25-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Lord:

quote:
Originally posted by Dalamar Stormcrow:
Why does the wording for the spell, Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting, slower, is it like a warning to bolt and get the hell out of there?

And why is Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting posted under a Necromancy type spell????

Good Luck finding out [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Well let's see:

It's not an illusion, no doubt about that .
It's not evocation/invocation: it's not a stationary spell (although it sort of looks like it when you cast it), the caster is not calling upon their God to help them out, and the caster is not creating materials (like Melf's Acid Arrows) to shoot at his/her enemies.
It's not abjuration because it's not a protection spell.
It's not alteration because, well, I don't know why. I'd think it could possibly be this since it changes the condition of a creature.
It's not enchantment/charm b/c it's not changing a character's attitude (unless he dies from it [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) and it doesn't give magical properties to items.
It's not divination because the caster is not learning hidden secrets.

Which leaves Necromancy. It could be necromancy because it deals with the vitality of living creatures, like many of the other spells. But it's affect mathes no other class except necromancy and alteration. [/QUOTE]I agree...

Tyrion · 12-25-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Haldir:

quote:
Originally posted by Lord:

quote:
Originally posted by Dalamar Stormcrow:
Why does the wording for the spell, Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting, slower, is it like a warning to bolt and get the hell out of there?

And why is Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting posted under a Necromancy type spell????

Good Luck finding out [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Well let's see:

It's not an illusion, no doubt about that .
It's not evocation/invocation: it's not a stationary spell (although it sort of looks like it when you cast it), the caster is not calling upon their God to help them out, and the caster is not creating materials (like Melf's Acid Arrows) to shoot at his/her enemies.
It's not abjuration because it's not a protection spell.
It's not alteration because, well, I don't know why. I'd think it could possibly be this since it changes the condition of a creature.
It's not enchantment/charm b/c it's not changing a character's attitude (unless he dies from it [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) and it doesn't give magical properties to items.
It's not divination because the caster is not learning hidden secrets.

Which leaves Necromancy. It could be necromancy because it deals with the vitality of living creatures, like many of the other spells. But it's affect mathes no other class except necromancy and alteration. [/QUOTE]I agree... [/QUOTE]me too...

Userunfriendly · 12-26-2003, 04:47 AM

MUST NOT QUOTE, MUST NOT QUOTE....

[img]tongue.gif[/img]

sorta think of it as the mummification spell, you're essentually mummifying a creature alive...(though it works on undead too...hmmm...)

JrKASperov · 12-26-2003, 06:14 AM

Extracting all moist from a subject's body seems like Transmutation to me, sorry. The only thing Necromantic about that spell is the little skull you see when it hits..

[ 12-26-2003, 06:15 AM: Message edited by: JrKASperov ]

Neo Duelis of Ra · 12-26-2003, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by JrKASperov:
Extracting all moist from a subject's body seems like Transmutation to me, sorry. The only thing Necromantic about that spell is the little skull you see when it hits..

I thought "transmutation" is turning something into something else. It doesn't say "Turns all water to x" so really, its just removing. Necromancy IMO.

JrKASperov · 12-26-2003, 08:20 AM

No, transmutation is not turning x into y. Transmutaation is just altering an object's conditions. So, a body could be removed of all it's water, basically what ADHW does.

Userunfriendly · 12-26-2003, 01:13 PM

we're not converting a body's water into silica, for example...we're removing it, in an entropic process...extraction...

like an undead sucks out yer levels...

Mr_Krift · 12-28-2003, 06:49 PM

Well, it hit them for so much, some times it kills them. Killing = Death , Death = Necromancy

12-26-2003, 04:47 AM	#5
Userunfriendly Elminster Join Date: October 11, 2003 Location: Sluggy Zone Age: 59 Posts: 487	MUST NOT QUOTE, MUST NOT QUOTE.... [img]tongue.gif[/img] sorta think of it as the mummification spell, you're essentually mummifying a creature alive...(though it works on undead too...hmmm...) __________________ Jansens aren\'t as harmless like everybody supposes! <br />They got them stumpy legs and puffy potato noses! <br />And what\'s with all the turnips? <br />Why do they eat so much root vegetables, anyway? <br />Jansens, Jansens,<br />It must be Jansens!!!<br />(or griffins!)

12-26-2003, 06:14 AM	#6
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 39 Posts: 1,701	Extracting all moist from a subject's body seems like Transmutation to me, sorry. The only thing Necromantic about that spell is the little skull you see when it hits.. [ 12-26-2003, 06:15 AM: Message edited by: JrKASperov ] __________________ God is in the rain.

12-26-2003, 08:20 AM	#8
JrKASperov Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 16, 2003 Location: Wa\'eni\'n Age: 39 Posts: 1,701	No, transmutation is not turning x into y. Transmutaation is just altering an object's conditions. So, a body could be removed of all it's water, basically what ADHW does. __________________ God is in the rain.

12-26-2003, 01:13 PM	#9
Userunfriendly Elminster Join Date: October 11, 2003 Location: Sluggy Zone Age: 59 Posts: 487	we're not converting a body's water into silica, for example...we're removing it, in an entropic process...extraction... like an undead sucks out yer levels... __________________ Jansens aren\'t as harmless like everybody supposes! <br />They got them stumpy legs and puffy potato noses! <br />And what\'s with all the turnips? <br />Why do they eat so much root vegetables, anyway? <br />Jansens, Jansens,<br />It must be Jansens!!!<br />(or griffins!)

12-28-2003, 06:49 PM	#10
Mr_Krift Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 12, 2003 Location: USA Age: 37 Posts: 326	Well, it hit them for so much, some times it kills them. Killing = Death , Death = Necromancy __________________ [img]\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Krift/RoF.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />

12-25-2003, 10:43 AM	#1
Dalamar Stormcrow Banned User Join Date: November 1, 2003 Location: My own little world Age: 34 Posts: 828	Why does the wording for the spell, Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting, slower, is it like a warning to bolt and get the hell out of there? And why is Abi-Dalzhim's Horrid Wilting posted under a Necromancy type spell???? Good Luck finding out [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

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