Question about Paladins...solo =)

Pyrenk · 08-08-2003, 09:15 PM

Topic. I am soloing either an Undead Hunter or a Cavalier (suggestions welcome, but that isn't the main question). However, I am roleplaying this time, and frankly, a Paladin should not have a two-handed sword, Cavalier especially. I want to use Sword and Shield style, but the ApR is a turn off. Is 1 the max I can get without using Belm/Kundane?

If I can't get more ApR, I will consider dual-weilding, but it is un-Paladin like.

ADD-For me, the one benefit of going the two-handed way is being able to switch to Firetooth (crossbow) without having to remove a shield/weapon from my off-hand slot...although the Cavalier can't use ranged weapons to begin with.

[ 08-08-2003, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: Pyrenk ]

Assassin · 08-08-2003, 09:57 PM

With a Sword and Shield, the maximum you can get is 2 1/2 ApR (1/2 for Specialisation, and 1/2 for level 7, and 1/2 for level 13). You will most likely need to use a ToB Scimitar (the one found on the 3rd level of Watcher's Keep), instead of the one found on the first floor, because the extra health to you won't be that evident unless you invest heavily in Greater Whirlwinds. However, the 30% Magic REsistance bonus is very useful. I would go with the Cavalier, but that's just me. You can get the Amulet of Power soon anyways.

Pyrenk · 08-08-2003, 10:05 PM

It's a Bastard Sword, not a Scimitar.

I forgot that I had True Grandmastery and Un-nerfed THACO tables from the EoU mod...with ***** in Bastard Sword, ** in Sword and Shield, Purifier, and the Shield of the Order (??), I had 7/2 ApR

Pyrenk · 08-08-2003, 10:19 PM

Ah, new question. Which weapon proficiency should I take, Bastard Sword? Long Sword is tempting (Dragon Slayer

), and I love the Axe of the U., but the Purifier seems best in role-playing terms.

Firestormalpha · 08-08-2003, 10:39 PM

Well if you're going with bastard sword, then a good starting sword, which isn't too hard to acquire early in the game, would be the Daystar. Don't complain about blade's guardian being too hard for so early in the game, there are ways around him.

Pyrenk · 08-08-2003, 10:47 PM

Complain about difficulty? Pshaw. I live for the challenge

BTW, isn't Daystar a Long Sword? =\

I can't decide on the weapon, though. I've narrowed it down to the Purifier (Bastard Sword), the Axe of the Unyeilding, Angurvadal (Long Sword), and the Spectral Brand (Scimitar).

Leslie · 08-09-2003, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pyrenk:
Complain about difficulty? Pshaw. I live for the challenge BTW, isn't Daystar a Long Sword? =\

I can't decide on the weapon, though. I've narrowed it down to the Purifier (Bastard Sword), the Axe of the Unyeilding, Angurvadal (Long Sword), and the Spectral Brand (Scimitar).

Axes ! For solo Cavalier - Azuredge (upgraded +4) - ranged weapon, Stonefire , ...

Later Axe of Unyielding and Klogarath !

Also Flails : FOE and DOE

Armor of Faith + DOE + Hardiness - 85%
You'll need that !

And of course bastard swords - Foebane and Purifier !
Don't forget the mighty Carso ...

True_Moose · 08-09-2003, 03:35 AM

Go for a cavalier, first off. They have essentially no disadvantages, and the bonuses are extreme.

I would advise going for a shield, because you will need the added benefits, and the one-handed weapons are nothing to shake a stick atAnyway, I have a solo pally going on, and I'm shaping the weapon proficiencies like this: (for an end-game level 34 pally)
(beginning)
** Axes
** Two-Handed Sword
(later)
** Bastard Swords
** Halberds
** Flail
** War Hammer
* Whatever (I did long swords)
** Sword and Shield

Faceman · 08-09-2003, 05:12 AM

Basically Cavalier and Undead Hunter are eually strong but as SoA offers a lot of nice anti-undead items you don't really need the UH's special bonuses so go for the Cavalier.
Sword and Shield style is the way to go - roleplaying wise.
I'd suggest (for SoA only)
Longswords: Daystar, Balde of Roses, Dragon Slayer
War Hammer: Crom Faeyr
Mace of Disruption
Flail of Ages
Azuredge is a fine weapon but I don't really see a Paladin wielding a one-handed axe.

Pyrenk · 08-09-2003, 09:30 AM

Can you use K'logorath (Ranged) w/ a shield?

08-08-2003, 09:15 PM	#1
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 37 Posts: 1,156	Topic. I am soloing either an Undead Hunter or a Cavalier (suggestions welcome, but that isn't the main question). However, I am roleplaying this time, and frankly, a Paladin should not have a two-handed sword, Cavalier especially. I want to use Sword and Shield style, but the ApR is a turn off. Is 1 the max I can get without using Belm/Kundane? If I can't get more ApR, I will consider dual-weilding, but it is un-Paladin like. ADD-For me, the one benefit of going the two-handed way is being able to switch to Firetooth (crossbow) without having to remove a shield/weapon from my off-hand slot...although the Cavalier can't use ranged weapons to begin with. [ 08-08-2003, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: Pyrenk ] __________________

08-08-2003, 09:57 PM	#2
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	With a Sword and Shield, the maximum you can get is 2 1/2 ApR (1/2 for Specialisation, and 1/2 for level 7, and 1/2 for level 13). You will most likely need to use a ToB Scimitar (the one found on the 3rd level of Watcher's Keep), instead of the one found on the first floor, because the extra health to you won't be that evident unless you invest heavily in Greater Whirlwinds. However, the 30% Magic REsistance bonus is very useful. I would go with the Cavalier, but that's just me. You can get the Amulet of Power soon anyways. __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

08-08-2003, 10:05 PM	#3
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 37 Posts: 1,156	It's a Bastard Sword, not a Scimitar. I forgot that I had True Grandmastery and Un-nerfed THACO tables from the EoU mod...with *** in Bastard Sword, in Sword and Shield, Purifier, and the Shield of the Order (??), I had 7/2 ApR __________________

08-08-2003, 10:19 PM	#4
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 37 Posts: 1,156	Ah, new question. Which weapon proficiency should I take, Bastard Sword? Long Sword is tempting (Dragon Slayer ), and I love the Axe of the U., but the Purifier seems best in role-playing terms. __________________

08-08-2003, 10:39 PM	#5
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 41 Posts: 4,454	Well if you're going with bastard sword, then a good starting sword, which isn't too hard to acquire early in the game, would be the Daystar. Don't complain about blade's guardian being too hard for so early in the game, there are ways around him. __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

08-08-2003, 10:47 PM	#6
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 37 Posts: 1,156	Complain about difficulty? Pshaw. I live for the challenge BTW, isn't Daystar a Long Sword? =\ I can't decide on the weapon, though. I've narrowed it down to the Purifier (Bastard Sword), the Axe of the Unyeilding, Angurvadal (Long Sword), and the Spectral Brand (Scimitar). __________________

08-09-2003, 03:35 AM	#8
True_Moose Gold Dragon Join Date: June 18, 2002 Location: Wolfville, NS / Calgary, AB Age: 38 Posts: 2,563	Go for a cavalier, first off. They have essentially no disadvantages, and the bonuses are extreme. I would advise going for a shield, because you will need the added benefits, and the one-handed weapons are nothing to shake a stick atAnyway, I have a solo pally going on, and I'm shaping the weapon proficiencies like this: (for an end-game level 34 pally) (beginning) Axes Two-Handed Sword (later) Bastard Swords Halberds Flail War Hammer * Whatever (I did long swords) ** Sword and Shield __________________ [img]\"http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/true_moose/Siggy.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />

08-09-2003, 05:12 AM	#9
Faceman Hathor Join Date: February 18, 2002 Location: Vienna Age: 43 Posts: 2,248	Basically Cavalier and Undead Hunter are eually strong but as SoA offers a lot of nice anti-undead items you don't really need the UH's special bonuses so go for the Cavalier. Sword and Shield style is the way to go - roleplaying wise. I'd suggest (for SoA only) Longswords: Daystar, Balde of Roses, Dragon Slayer War Hammer: Crom Faeyr Mace of Disruption Flail of Ages Azuredge is a fine weapon but I don't really see a Paladin wielding a one-handed axe. __________________ \"I am forever spellbound by the frailty of life\"<br /><br /> Faceman

08-09-2003, 09:30 AM	#10
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 37 Posts: 1,156	Can you use K'logorath (Ranged) w/ a shield? __________________

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