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TaSSaDaR 10-02-2002 06:22 AM

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Recently I hit level 19. Having ToB, I gained access to real great power! Yeah, those HLAs!
Improved Alacrity and DragonBreath, along with the Wish, are really great! By the way, now I understand why Dundee calls DragonBreath/Comet 'Kangaxx The Demi-Lich'-Killers - tried to dragonbreath at the poor skull that was merely floating in the air excersizing with his low-level spells [img]smile.gif[/img] Ah, man, that was too cruel - it just burned to dust, leaving some junk on the ground ;)

And all that in ch2 [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

So now I have some questions for you:
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  1. What are the most potent combos and tactics for a high-level sorcerer, taking ToB HLA's into account?</font>
  2. Which HLA's should I choose?</font>
  3. What are the powers of Wish spell, other than restoring spells? And what does the list of wishes depend on? Along with 'rest' I got 'leveldrain my party', 'poison everybody on the screen inc. my party' and other nasty stuff...</font>
<font color="white">D_Slaytern] ToB Spoiler tags should be used when talking about ToB stuff in the SoA Forum.</font>

[ 10-02-2002, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

LennonCook 10-02-2002 06:51 AM

<font color="lightblue">Wish depends on Wisdom, as does limited wish.
Full list of effects can be found at www.planetbaldursgate.com </font>

TaSSaDaR 10-02-2002 06:57 AM

Heh, I see that the Wish spell is not so potent after all :( The only real cool choice is spell-restoration and maybe double Time-Stop with Imp. Alacrity.

[ 10-02-2002, 06:58 AM: Message edited by: TaSSaDaR ]

Ghostalker 10-02-2002 08:31 AM

How'd you reach Lv.19 on chapter 2 ? & btw. i heard you gain the slayer ability in exchange of the innaate ones when does that happen?

TaSSaDaR 10-02-2002 08:41 AM

I went solo - thus gaining all the XP from slain monsters/done quests myself only. Soloing, you level really fast!

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You'll get Slayer change ability in the Asylum in ch 4 (IIRC) But for me it was of no use ;)

daan 10-02-2002 09:16 AM

Wish is the nr.1 spell for a sorcerer actually, since a sorcerer can use it's full potential. However, Im not worthy of wrinting down such powefull information . .and therefor i respectfully wait for Dundee .. who has so much more flair when he writes it all down [img]graemlins/angel.gif[/img]

:( ok, so im just lazy,.. blame the search-function, not me .. I cant take the pressure of writing everything twice :(

daan 10-02-2002 09:32 AM

getting inspiration [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Project Image is the key ... a sorcerer can cast many, and still stay versatile .. which is why the tactic is best on sorcerers. They have the necessary spells involved as well as any other spell, A mage doesnt have that advantage and must select spells very specifically for this tactic to sort of work.

Anywayz ...

Just cast a project Image, and make the PI cast wish untill he gets the -rest- option ( optionally with Improved alacrity / potion of insight for ease of use)
PI and Wish are a sorcerer's happy-spells. since a PI can unleash an incredible force,.. and then another PI has the exact same spells as the former. Therefore a sorcerer has N x more power as much as he can cast PI's.
Two PI's ll probably deal with any enemy .. and then you'll stil be able to have a few PI's cast a whole lot of wish untill you're rested again :D

A somewhat cheesy tactic is to load a Chain Contingency with 3 PI's, and set the conditions to helpess and cast on self. Now, if you cast PI .. 3 more PI 'll join you .. effectively making 4 sorcerers of equal power out of one sorcerer. Now that's power :D

TaSSaDaR 10-02-2002 09:37 AM

Does 18 WIS guarantee that I will get 'rest' option most of the time? What is the optimal value for WIS to get that 'rest', say, 90% of the tries??

White Lancer 10-02-2002 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by TaSSaDaR:
Does 18 WIS guarantee that I will get 'rest' option most of the time? What is the optimal value for WIS to get that 'rest', say, 90% of the tries??
This is entirely based on hearsay (i dont have ToB and so cant try it myself) so take it with a grain of salt.
From what i gather from Dundee and others who have ToB, the options you get are completely random, your wisdom only affects whether you get all your spells wiped, or a few back. Please, feel free to correct me if im wrong, as i said, i dont KNOW, my input is based on things i have read in other posts.

daan 10-02-2002 11:05 AM

You'r wrong. :D
Your talking about Limited Wish,.. wisdom affects the choices you get with limited wish .. but the choices'll be more or less the same every time i think.
F.e. a mage with 5 wisdom would get the option to get all his spells wiped from his spellbook, where a mage with 18 wisdom would get the option to partially restore his spells.

Wish (lvl 9 ), creates options on a chance-based thing.
I believe a sorcerer with 18 wisdom, has a 12.5% chance of getting the -rest-option when casting wish ( not a whole lot)


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