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Sir Degrader 10-22-2005 03:39 PM

Is it really a right? Why should it go into the hands of the masses? If something so important as voting goes to all persons, regardless of their intelligence, etc, how can we know that we've made the best choice at the time?

Stratos 10-22-2005 03:42 PM

Any good democratic system have some mecanisms that prevents mob rule.

[ 10-22-2005, 03:42 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

Illumina Drathiran'ar 10-22-2005 05:43 PM

We don't know we made the right choices. That's the price we pay for democracy. Hell, I can't even COUNT the number of people I look at or listen to and think, "My God, they have as much say in the next election as I do." It's a scary thought, but that's how things are.

shamrock_uk 10-22-2005 06:19 PM

Good topic! The practical side of me says that everyone should not be equal in this regard, but there's a niggling voice at the back of my head reminding me that a lot of people did a lot of dying for the right to vote. Also it probably was the very people we might wish to exclude that did most of the dying...

Azred 10-22-2005 07:41 PM

<font color = lightgreen>Yes, it is most definitely a right. Every should suffer equally. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Seriously, though...there are plenty of people I feel don't deserve the right to vote, but it isn't up to me. So there. If a mob wants their way, regardless of what that way might be, then I say let them have what they want--they'll get exactly what they deserve. </font>

Illumina Drathiran'ar 10-22-2005 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Azred:
<font color = lightgreen>Yes, it is most definitely a right. Every should suffer equally. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Seriously, though...there are plenty of people I feel don't deserve the right to vote, but it isn't up to me. So there. If a mob wants their way, regardless of what that way might be, then I say let them have what they want--they'll get exactly what they deserve. </font>

But unfortunately, it means you and I get what the ignorant mob deserves.

Azred 10-23-2005 12:06 AM

<font color = lightgreen>Sometimes...but not always. [img]graemlins/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif[/img] </font>

Morgeruat 10-24-2005 08:59 AM

hmm, perhaps a mandatory test to prove a basic understanding of civics and how civil society functions before being allowed to vote?

Perhaps that's too close to the Poll tax and how it was used to discriminate against other ethnic groups in the US...

Sir Degrader 10-24-2005 07:36 PM

I was thinking mandatory IQ tests and high school (or equivalent) diploma.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 10-24-2005 09:06 PM

What if you don't test well? And, really, you can have a high IQ but absolutely NO COMMON SENSE.


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