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Jorath Calar 10-10-2001 03:58 PM

I have a very good friend that I talk to through ICQ, she lives in Argentina and I live in Iceland, we met 3 years ago in England and have been talking on the net for about a year now, she is a great friend, funny, sweet, smart and oh so beautyfull... but I found out yesterday that she is a racist. We were talking about the war and she started slagging of islamic people and I asked her why and she said the terrorists were muslims. then I said that not all muslims are terrorists. "no only 99% of them" she said. and got really upset and I ended up kind of agreeing with her even though I know it's not true 'cause I don't really want her to start hating me too.
Or am I wrong and all muslims are potential terrorists. I just can't believe it, there is 1.3 billion of them. Some of them must be good.



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Blade 10-10-2001 04:10 PM

I agree with you. The terrorists are actually a rougue faction of the religion. Osadim Ben Laden's terrorists and suiside bombers actually go against the cammands of there religion. Suside and murder are against there religon. It just goes to show you how people can be brainwashed. On both sides. And by the way hello http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Rikard 10-10-2001 04:15 PM

All Muslims are Potential Terrorists
Just like All Christians, Boeddist, Athiest or any other religon are
It only requeres the right circumstances
It has nothing to do woth religion, race, believe or whatever

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Sazerac 10-10-2001 04:17 PM

Your friend's blaming all Muslim's for what OBL's group has done is like blaming all Christians for what Jim Jones or David Koresh did. One mustn't judge the mean by the variance.

Reminds me of the song "Your Racist Friend" by They Might Be Giants:

Your Racist Friend
By They Might Be Giants

"This is where the party ends
I can't stand here listening to you
And your racist friend
I know politics bore you
but I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
You and your racist friend
It was the loveliest party I've ever attended
If anything was broken
I'm sure it can be mended
My head is tired from bobbing and pretending
Listen to some bullet-head
and the madness that he's saying
This is where the party ends
I'll just sit here wondering how you
can stand by your racist friend
Out from the kitchen
to the bedroom to the hallway
Your friend apologizes, he could see it my way
He let the contents of the bottle do the thinking
Can't shake the devil's hand
and say you're only kidding..."

(not aimed at you, Jorath Calar, but something to think about regarding your friend...)



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Silver Cheetah 10-10-2001 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
I have a very good friend that I talk to through ICQ, she lives in Argentina and I live in Iceland, we met 3 years ago in England and have been talking on the net for about a year now, she is a great friend, funny, sweet, smart and oh so beautyfull... but I found out yesterday that she is a racist. We were talking about the war and she started slagging of islamic people and I asked her why and she said the terrorists were muslims. then I said that not all muslims are terrorists. "no only 99% of them" she said. and got really upset and I ended up kind of agreeing with her even though I know it's not true 'cause I don't really want her to start hating me too.
Or am I wrong and all muslims are potential terrorists. I just can't believe it, there is 1.3 billion of them. Some of them must be good.


Depends what you mean by 'good' - I find it a pretty meaningless concept. If you mean just ordinary people, living their lives, having babies, working at whatever they do, living, loving, hating, getting frustrated, cooking - yup, I reckon that's most of them.

Living in the UK, I've known a lot of Muslim people, mostly from Pakistan, over the years. I lived in London for a long time, and Luton, both of which have a large Muslim population, both Arab and African. Without exception, I find them to be kind, loving, thoughful and 'ordinary', whatever that means. They seemed to have the same problems, pretty much, as the rest of us. The forms were sometimes different, but the essence the same.

Please tell her that she is mistaken!



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Yorick 10-10-2001 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
I have a very good friend that I talk to through ICQ, she lives in Argentina and I live in Iceland, we met 3 years ago in England and have been talking on the net for about a year now, she is a great friend, funny, sweet, smart and oh so beautyfull... but I found out yesterday that she is a racist. We were talking about the war and she started slagging of islamic people and I asked her why and she said the terrorists were muslims. then I said that not all muslims are terrorists. "no only 99% of them" she said. and got really upset and I ended up kind of agreeing with her even though I know it's not true 'cause I don't really want her to start hating me too.
Or am I wrong and all muslims are potential terrorists. I just can't believe it, there is 1.3 billion of them. Some of them must be good.


She should quantify her racism and say "all Wahabists are potential terrorists". Then she is possessing a racists attitude based on knowledge rather than ignorance.



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Ryanamur 10-12-2001 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rikard:
All Muslims are Potential Terrorists
Just like All Christians, Boeddist, Athiest or any other religon are
It only requeres the right cirquemstanses
It has nothing to do wioth religion, race, believe or whatever


Rikard, I think you said it all http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Dreamer128 10-13-2001 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Ryanamur:
Rikard, I think you said it all http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
I agree, lets not forget that we killed a lot more people then the muslims and every religion has it fanatics.


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Neb 10-13-2001 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Yorick:
She should quantify her racism and say "all Wahabists are potential terrorists". Then she is possessing a racists attitude based on knowledge rather than ignorance.

I think that when you base your hatred of something on knowledge and facts it is not racism.

Fljotsdale 10-13-2001 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Yorick:
She should quantify her racism and say "all Wahabists are potential terrorists". Then she is possessing a racists attitude based on knowledge rather than ignorance.

Yorick? You've used the word 'Wahabists' several times. I have to confess to never having heard it. I don't read newspapers, so have not seen it written - is it pronounced differently than it is spelled? And why are they bad? From what I have found in my copy of The Macmillan Encyclopedia, they seem to be no worse than any other sect of either Islam or Christianity, if rather fundamentally simplistic in their outlook:

Wahhabiyah - A Muslim sect founded by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (1691-1787). It stresses the need for a Muslim State based on strict adherance to the literal authority of the Koran and Hadith. It is responsible for the vreation of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

The Saudis are ok with the West, so....?

Can you enlighten me? Oh, silly me! I'll go check on the net....!

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